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User:Henrygichabaobwogi/MR.HENRY GICHABA OBWOGI

Seems to me that's a bit of a loophole: if it had been created as an article sd would apply, but because it's in userspace it doesn't? HalfShadow 18:28, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

It's not a loophole, the article criteria are explicitly for articles. Only the general criteria apply in all namespaces. To put it another way, you wouldn't request an article be deleted under T2 or C1. However, we could do with a "U4" criterion similar to that for P1. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:43, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, those are the rules, logical or no. I'm quite surprised another admin allowed an A7 in the userspace, actually. Courcelles 18:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but

Hey, thanks for the quick approval. Could I ask that you actually remove it from StrPby (talk · contribs)? I use that more often from my mobile browser than a computer terminal, and for that reason I don't employ twinkle on that either. I'm afraid it's much easier to misclick something there and end up rolling back something I shouldn't be rolling back. Strange Passerby (talk • contribs) 03:49, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. Courcelles 03:51, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

RFA Question

A user is wanting to nominate me for an RFA. I want to work on the questions before hand to get everything "on the board" and ready to go but I can't find a "blank sheet" of the standard questions on the RFA. Do you know where they are, so I can answer them before the user noms me tomorrow? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 05:43, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Just look at any recent, random RFA. Questions 1, 2, and 3 are the stock questions that are there every time. Courcelles 05:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Okie Dokie...any other questions that are "all the time" questions? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 05:46, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

There's ones that come up often enough to be ready for. #5 from Dana's, #4 from Diannaa's, #'s 4 and 8 from Nikkimaria's, are common; and #10 from Elen's, while not common, is a bit of goût du jour. To level with you, though, your block log is going to be a major problem. You might sneak through... but you might also flame out in a white sheet. Are you prepared for that? Courcelles 05:53, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I am well aware that my block log is going to kill me off pretty quick. I just feel if I never take a chance on it, I will never know if I can try. But I honestly feel I will have 0 to the good and I am willing to accept that. But it can't hurt to try. :)

I will check out those other questions and try to get some answers to them ready in case they come up. I want to be "on the ball" on this thing, but feel my block log will, again, kill me off so it might be all for naught...but again it can't hurt. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:23, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Wanted to make a note here: by my asking you about RFA questions is not me asking you to !vote on my upcoming RFA at all or if you do, to !vote in any fashion. Just wanted to make that clear so I don't get the RFA off on the wrong foot. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:10, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Revision Visibility?

In my watchlist, I noticed you changed my "revision visibility..." I was just wondering: what is this?--Andy^{Speak to Me (Breathe)}_Contribs 19:12, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

See WP:REVDEL, someone vandalised your userpage with nastyness, and I removed it from the history. Courcelles 19:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victoria Vox

looks like we collided on this one :) --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:21, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

2010 PapaJohns.com Bowl

Thanks for your review some time back of my featured list candidate List of Connecticut Huskies bowl games. I realize that it might be somewhat painful for a South Carolina fan, but would you be willing to take a look at my article 2010 PapaJohns.com Bowl, which is currently a featured article candidate? If so, I would greatly appreciate it. –Grondemar 18:11, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, alright, I'll do it. And if we beat Florida for the SEC East this Saturday, I might even support! (It may well be tomorrow, I'm swamped) Courcelles 18:13, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much, and good luck against the Gators and (hopefully) in the SEC Championship! –Grondemar 00:06, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Haven't forgotten... just can't do it tonight. Can't relive that loss after this win. Courcelles 05:15, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem, congrats on the win! –Grondemar 13:47, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Seeing that you are logged in

what's missiiing with my FLC? Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 04:13, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

A free hour when I'm wide awake for me to read and chase down things regarding the images. Courcelles 05:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 07:44, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

The Deletion log

This is racking up with a huge pile of redactions from your rev-deleting. I jjust wondered, isn't there a quicker way to remove a pile of revisions in one go? Minimac (talk) 07:02, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

The rules are very clear- RevDel one revision at a time... even when you need to do 250 of the things. I don't like it any more than you do. Courcelles 07:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

You're the only non-arb I've ever seen follow that rule, fwiw. I've been known to delete multiple revisions and I've never seen a problem. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:07, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Considering you have to click through a message each and every time about improper use leading to arbitration/desysopping, I'm somewhat surprised at that. Oh, well... hopefully the bugs will be worked out soon. Courcelles 22:23, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Debrahlee Lorenzana

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Debrahlee Lorenzana. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Smallman12q (talk) 23:49, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Again? Alright, thanks, I probably won't comment though... as my fifth time facing this article, what else could I possibly have to say? Courcelles 19:03, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Text/code for deleted article Levi Casboult

Could you please provide me with or direct me to the text/code for the recently deleted article Levi Casboult. The article itself was sufficiently well written to be exactly replaced once Casboult meets what I consider to be the farcical notability milestones, and I have no intention of rewriting the article from scratch if/when this time comes. Aspirex (talk) 06:41, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually, as a PROD, I can simply restore it under statement that you contest its deletion. Courcelles 06:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Please do. Thanks for the reply. Aspirex (talk) 07:28, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. That won't stop someone sending it to AFD, but, of course, that's a bridge to be crossed when encountered. Courcelles 07:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Protection of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Lowe (2nd nomination)

Hi there! I was just about to do the same thing. I was wondering if you thought it might be a good idea to put some sort of edit notice on there explaining why IPs/new won't be able to !vote? GedUK  15:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Not sure this has ever been done, so feel free to do whatever you want to it, but Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Lowe (2nd nomination). Courcelles 16:36, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. I substed in that editnotice, seemed pointless making another one. GedUK  19:56, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Deletion discussion for Caribbean Pearl Airways

Hi Courcelles, I noticed that you closed the deletion desicussion for Haitair and deleted the page, though Caribbean Pearl Airways, which was included in the same discussion, is still around. Could this have been done by mistake? Per aspera ad Astra (talk) 16:19, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Completely by mistake. Gone now. Courcelles 16:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Holy Land USA

Thank you, that was getting monotonous! Best, Markvs88 (talk) 16:42, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Happy editing. Courcelles 16:45, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Derelict

I've been meaning to thank you for everything-- being too busy to have good manners isn't an excuse. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:33, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Just doing what I can, and trying not to get ensnared in pre-holiday drama. Have a good trip. Courcelles 18:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Codendi

Hi ,

I noticed that the Codendi article has disappeared. I am very disapointed about that and really don't understdand why the article of this software is so controversial whereas there are many and many articles about other softwares even written by their editors. After the 2nd nomination of the Codendi article, I proposed a new one, made changes, add sources, etc. After this work and discussions with Wikipedians, the proposed article has been approved by Alpha Quadrant.So, could you please explain me why there is such a problem and how can I remdey about it. Thanks you very much for your response, Cheers - ManonM (talk) 12:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

When it comes right down to it, a lack of notability can be impossible to remedy- the coverage is either out there somewhere or it is not. If the significant, independent coverage isn't there, there's really nothing that can be done by most of us; we lack the power to get reliable sources to talk about subjects. If the coverage was out there, however, after three weeks at AFD, someone should have been able to find it. That other articles seem equal to this one may be an excellent argument for sending other articles to AFD; I've no doubt that someone could find quite a few non-notable articles out there that no one has bothered sending to AFD as of yet. Courcelles 18:56, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Courcelles, thanks for your response. On one hand I understand your remark but on the other hand, how small but powerfull softwares can be discovered if there are not included in an encyplopedia as Wkipedia ? It is all the interest of it! To gather all information about all the subjects without favouring only the big ones (the big softwares in our case). When I noticed some articles about other "small" softwares as LibreSource or XWiki for example, I thought there were very interesting and proposed Codendi, all the more that it is open-source so people can use it for free. Moreover, I am stonished that an article can be deleted whereas it has just been approved by a Wikipedian. Don't you think we can give one more chance to my article ? Cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by ManonM (talk • contribs) 08:56, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

a request

I placed a {{db-author}} on User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Guantanamo hunger strikes. Thanks for deleting it!

I don't know if this request is possible for you to help me with. I have had some concerns expressed recently, over some pages I created in userspace. Some of my challengers are claiming -- incorrectly -- that I have been ignoring these concerns. In fact I have taken these concerns seriously, and requested deletion of quite a few pages, taking these concerns.

It would help me if the deletion log reflected that this page was deleted as a {{dba-author}}.

Above the {{db-author}} I placed a #REDIRECT [[dev null]]. I am sorry if this caused confusion. I do this because when a page is a redirect, when you do an All Pages, redirects show up in italics. Sometimes, early in the a.m., for instance, the latency from when a db request is placed to when it is deleted, can be six hours or more. If I am going through pages in userspace, I can ignore those in italics.

I'll change the target of the redirect I place from here on in.

If it is possible for you to amend the deletion log, and if it is not too much trouble, can I ask you to consider doing so for this page?

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 00:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Done, restored as G8, deleted as U1. The problem is that broken redirects, which the dev null trick made them, show up on the nightly report of them- Wikipedia:Database reports/Broken redirects. If you don't want them going in the logs as G8's, you should only stick the db-u1 tag on them, and not the redirects, as someone cleans that thing out every night when it is published, usually much faster than the (perpetual) CSD backlog. Courcelles 01:01, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks! So, should I abandon using a redirect? Or is using a non-broken redirect, like I did at User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/other articles that aren't ready yet/Medical care in Afghanistan OK? Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 02:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

• Try putting the db tag above the redirect, if you want to mark your pages this way. Otherwise admins just follow the redirect and scratch their heads wondering why the page was in CAT:SD. (Honestly, the whole system is likely to cause more log mistakes than anything else.) Courcelles 02:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
  • OK. Thanks for the info. I'll just abandon this feature.

    If the redirect isn't the first line then it isn't recognized as a redirect at all.

    Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 02:18, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...

... for protecting our light! Cheers - DVdm (talk) 17:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. When the graffiti and cleanup are so thick you can't find the article progress in the history, something has to change. Courcelles 19:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2

I see that you've issued sanctions recently in the named matter. I'm a Third Opinion Wikipedian who due to this 3O request took a look at Sumgait pogrom. There's a slow-motion edit war going on there which appears to me to violate the current ArbCom remedies. The editors involved, MarshallBagramyan and Tuscumbia have both been previously warned and blocked in that matter on one or more occasions. Just FYI, your call. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 22:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh good lord. Both of them were givwn three month topic bans in July, which have expired, but this is the same kind of crap that led to those being imposed in the first place. Will investigate. Courcelles 00:46, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Bristol Palin

Would you consider shortening the duration of the semi-protection for Bristol Palin from 6 months to 6 weeks? It seems that the concern surrounds her appearance on Dancing with the Stars, which is near the end, so 6 months would be a little too long of a duration. See discussion at Talk:Bristol Palin#Semi protection. Victor Victoria (talk) 01:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I was actually debating between the six months and indef, not something so short as six weeks. This is a persistent, long-term problem with all articles regarding Sarah Palin. Courcelles 01:33, 19 November 2010 (UTC)