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Your edits of Yeshivat Chovevei Torah

Hello, and welcome again to Wikipedia.

I would encourage you to enter into the dialogue section to discuss disagreements you have with the current coverage of Yeshivat Chovevei Torah prior to making large-scale changes. Also, it's very important to provide sources for anything you add.

I want to acknowledge that the YCT article hadn't been updated to address its recent decision to entertain a group of Catholic cardinals or the criticism it received for it, and you are welcome to add material on it (with sources, please), as well as general criticisms of its approach by notable Rabbanim. I am adding a "criticism" section and making the "Dialogue and controversy" section a subsection of it. You are welcome to add additional subsections identifying other major criticisms YCT has received. However, please identify specific individuals or editorials and supply sources. Quoting them would be preferable. Wikipedia discourages the use of things like "some say" or "many believe" because these statements are often covers for the editor's own personal opinion, and are not verifiable.

Finally, please confine criticisms to the Criticism section. Your point that characterizing R. Linzer as "brilliant" is non-neutral is well taken. The introduction piece should consist only of facts about YCT, opinions for and against, and facts about what others believe and hold, should come in later sections. Best, --Shirahadasha 22:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Edits in Criticism of Orthodox Status

Hello, there is currently a discussion in Talk:Yeshivat Chovevei Torah about your recent edits in this section. User:Jayrav has proposed deleting your edits, arguing that the sources you provided state general principles but don't criticize YCT specifically. Please join the discussion. Best, --Shirahadasha 05:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I added some material from a source, an article in Cross-Currents, which discusses YCT's recent actions in light of Rav Soloveitchik. All one needs to do is find a publication in which someone else who is making the same or a similar criticism, and it becomes appropriate material for Wikipedia. But it's not OK to give ones own opinion of what Rav Soloveitchik would have said. Please see my comments in the article's Talk section for more information. The intention isn't to remove your input, but to try to channel it into a form Wikipedia can accept. If your input is like the Cross-Currents article there'll be no problem. Please work with us. Best, --Shirahadasha 01:30, 1 September 2006 (UTC)