User talk:Celestina007/Archives/2021/March

Sooraj Surendran

Hi Celestina007,

I remember that you said you had experience with potential UPE and puffery problems on WP, particularly with entrepeuneurs from Nigeria or India. Could you please take a look at this article, in particular, this old revision, before I removed some of the more obviously counterfactual claims? I'm concerned that it might be a UPE problem as it was created by a new user who has since not contributed substantially elsewhere on the project, and especially since the article when I encountered it read like an advertisement for their products. I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have.

Best, BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx, Although I can’t say it’s UPE for sure but it’s pretty much overt that there’s a COI & your best move might be to take it the COIBOARD, & simultaneously, if you feel the subject isn’t notable you can also nominate the article for deletion. Celestina007 (talk) 19:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Celestina007, it looks like NeethuRafale else has since reverted the grammar and prose changes to reflect the edits as linked in the permlink above. Like the article's creator, this user has no contributions outside of the AfD on Sooraj Surendran, or the article itself. I'm wondering if an SPI would be appropriate. Any thoughts? Warmly, BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 17:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx, this looks like sock puppetry, opening an SPI might prove pertinent. Would you be willing to open the SPI? I would have myself, but I’m currently doing too many things at the same time. Celestina007 (talk) 17:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007 Collecting the diffs now. Best, BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 18:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx, Ah, great then. Celestina007 (talk) 18:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Yoyo Ovi

Hello Celestina007, just a heads up, Anonymous Jona looks like a SPA, with first edit made to this article and even removed the AfD template. --Ashleyyoursmile! 14:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ashleyyoursmile, I’d look into it as soon as possible & tackle it accordingly. Celestina007 (talk) 16:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Sure thing, thanks. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 16:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Done updating

Hi, Cele. I am done updating the draft Draft:Emmanuel Nuhu Kure. I hope it's well done! Kambai Akau (talk) 14:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

hello, i did take a second look & unfortunately i can’t accept it at this moment. Frankly speaking I don’t think you followed the advice i left on your tp. There seems to be a lot of ref bombing with what’s best described as fake referencing, for example this source as many other sources listed in the article don’t even name drop the subject of the article. At this point I’d leave it to another uninvolved reviewer to make the decisions. Another problem is, some of the book sources used were written by the article’s subject himself and some of the other sources are definitely paid for. In order not to poison the well, I’m leaving this comment here & not at the AFC itself, giving an uninvolved reviewer the chance to make their own decisions. I hope you do understand. Celestina007 (talk) 23:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007: -- Paid for! Okay o. No problems. I would really appreciate help on this article. Truly. But, I would also want to say this... I, Kambai Akau, see the creation of articles as part of community service. If I am not able to give in cash, I give in works without expecting even a thank you from anyone because I really don't care so much about people's testimony about my mortal self. Once I feel happy doing it, I do it. Once I know another would find it useful, I do it, even when I stress my body to do it. Money is wonderful. But integrity is indispensable. When I write an article, I try as much as possible to see it survive. But where my skills lag, I learn. Please, don't get tired of me, I learn slowly at times. Kambai Akau (talk) 19:48, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kambai Akau, I actually like your sense of humor, I’d work on it tonight & it would be published before 12:00. Celestina007 (talk) 21:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007: -- Glad you like it. 😊 Thanks indeed! Kambai Akau (talk) 21:57, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kambai Akau,  Done your article has been accepted and published. Celestina007 (talk) 23:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007: -- Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!! I won't have done it any better than this, though. I am humbled! Kambai Akau (talk) 23:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Comment of Draft:Rebecca Nengi Hampson

You left a comment on my draft accusing me of being paid. Quite frankly I haven't been paid to draft it and neither have I been paid to edit any articles I've contributed to in my four months on Wikipedia. Your suspicions stem from a comment I left on someone else's talk page. It came from a place of seeking approval that the draft was good enough for resubmission and not the way you interpreted it at all. Your accusation was grave and discredits all the effort I'm putting into bettering the draft and other editsm I found it somewhat offensive. I was not paid, but at this point I wish I was so that the discredit wouldn't bother me. But I wasn't and I don't plan on making anyone pay me to contribute to Wikipedia at any point in time. I'm just the average Wikipedia user. -Best regards Justice Faith (talk) 09:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@Justice Faith, you do yourself a disservice by being dishonest, when being truthful would save you from an indef block coming your way for violating our WP:PAID policy. Celestina007 (talk) 09:59, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Wow! This is actually heartbreaking. What exactly did I do to make you think I'm paid?? Also kindly guide me on how I can disprove your presumption. Is there a Wikipedia administrators email where I can send Identification proof. Isn't there a procedure for rebuttal of such false claims. Cause I'm ready to go through procedure since you think I'm telling lies.

I don't even know any of the subjects personally. I've just seen them on television and made research. I'm not even Nigerian to begin with so by what means would someone jump from Nigeria to pay a Ugandan to draft an article?

Again if you don't believe me, just guide me on the procedure of contesting these claims Justice Faith (talk) 10:17, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

I’d rather not, if I told you how I nab undisclosed paid editing it would make it much easier for you to evade scrutiny next time. Honestly, I wouldn’t be entertaining any questions from you anymore & that article is never going to be accepted into this collaborative project & would be held at AFC until you disclose your COI. Do you know how many times I’ve heard such tales? Do you know how long I’ve been doing this? Furthermore Nobody needs to see your ID as that may constitute WP:OUTING & endangering your own self. I am however happy to share my knowledge with functionaries & afc reviewers. Celestina007 (talk) 10:30, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Just do me a favor and delete the draft. I'd rather have it deleted than be accused falsely and made to accept something I didn't even know was possible on this particular platform.

Wouldn't have wasted hours of my time if I knew how unfair you editors are. You have no proof, you're busy judging me from your past experience. Painting me a liar and you won't even let me provide any proof against these accusations.

Have a nice time falsely accusing people on here ❤️ and help me delete it since I'm a liar Justice Faith (talk) 10:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@Justice Faith, an inexperienced inept liar to be precise, & I do have proof, too bad I’m not going to be sharing it with an inept UPE editor.Celestina007 (talk) 10:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay❤️ Justice Faith (talk) 11:02, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 12:02:00, 7 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by JudeJnr

• JudeJnr (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Oxlade (singer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi @Celestina007:, according to your review. You stated "The subject of the article isn’t notable notjustyet". According to notjustyet, a subject is considered "NOTJUSTYET" if it fails the Notability guideline. The subject appears to be notable, being nominated twice at the The Headies. Covered on reliable sources, as followed: [1], [2], [3] [4], [5], [6], [7] and also his releases has also been covered on reliable sources: [8], [9], leaving the subject notable enough, and meeting the following guidelines; WP:SINGER, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:GNG. I have, made adjustment on all the comments made on the article, and I believe the subject is notable enough to be tagged notjustyet.

JudeJnr (talk) 12:02, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Query on Anusha Rai moved to draftspace

Hi Celestina007, thanks for the attention. The subject is a TV and film actress. Acted in multiple languages - Kannada, Telugu, Malyalam. The reliable secondary resources are available in the following local langauge newspaper (digital, print both) and in English both.

• Vijaya Karnataka Kannada Newspaper
• News18 Kannada
• Udayavani, Kannada Daily News Paper
• The Times of India - English
• The Indian Express- English
• Deccan Chronicle - English
• Bangalore Mirror - English

In the above list, The Times of India - English, The Indian Express- English - are also considered reliable or perennial sources of Wikipedia (https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Sources). My query is whether the coverage in local langauge is not taken into consideration? The menntioned local newspapes have a high ciruclation or readeship in the region she belongs to. If not, there are 4 english newspapers also talking about the subject's contribution to the entertainment industry, are they not sufficient? Emerging artists gradaully get coverage with more releases, and she will too. Can we restore the page, and keep improving it as new notable incidents took place? thank you Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 02:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of an article

Hey Celestina007 I came across this Ghanaian article Reuben Griffiths Bekoe, looks like someone just created it out of sheer will of knowing the person but in my opinion and from what I have searched on the article, it doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability tag and references on the article are poor. Can you have a look at it, I want a second opinion on it, and if possible nominate it for deletion? Thanks Ampimd (talk) 10:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ampimd, so it was created by Jrwale in 2018 & has the file in the article listed as his “own work” which pretty much tells me at least more than half of what I need to know. The sourcing doesn’t appear to be there, I’m not sure how it has stayed on mainspace for this long. Celestina007 (talk) 17:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ampimd, it may interest you to know that following our discussion above I have nominated the article for deletion. Celestina007 (talk) 00:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 I guess my convictions were on point then. I was surprised it had also stayed on wikipedia for that long without anyone noticing it, thanks for nominating it. Ampimd (talk) 15:36, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Emiway Bantai (Indian rapper)

@Celestina007, Emiway Bantai has once declined (like an advertisement on reading). But I have fixed it now. Please review it. Please do not deny by giving any other reason, I hope so. 223.238.222.235 (talk) 11:43, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Praxidicae was the one who declined the draft and rightfully so. Celestina007 (talk) 13:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Looking through the nominations to see how to improve the article, thanks celestina007 Tundealuko (talk) 14:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks Hudlag (talk) 08:24, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi

@Celestina007 ,2 days ago you rejected the publishing of "Erica Nlewedim" page..please may I know what went wrong so that I can edit Justfrankleen (talk) 09:38, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi

Hello, how are you? Look at the article is well written, also would consider that you will observe this article with little information and without many references that prove its permanence by Wikipedia Richard Holzer if they delete mine they should also delete that without relevance. Secretsgenius (talk) 18:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Secretsgenius, no, I wouldn’t do such. Celestina007 (talk) 00:00, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	For a basketball player, you know how to keep a low profile when you need to  :) thanks for all your great work here, and I hope real life isn't being too oppressive right now. Cheers! ——Serial 16:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129, thanks for this show of affection which means a lot coming from you, who i always look up to. Real life has been fair thus far. It’s also a great delight to see you editing once again I unsuccessfully attempted to contact you during your break from editing. Glad to have you back and once again, thanks for this. Celestina007 (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I wanted to say hello!!

Hi there! I'm new around here and I'd love to get to know you! :) Elise (she/her/hers) (talk) 18:38, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@BoundlessElise, hello there, & welcome to the family. Pretty much everything you need to know about me is on my Userpage. I’m open to answer more personal questions from you, however, if you are a young editor, (arbitrarily I set that at 18 & younger) ensure never to give away personal information to anyone and even if older, not sharing your personal information is a good idea, as our edits here have real life consequences on a global scale. If you have any question or questions pertaining to editing in general you may ask me or if you like, for a faster response you may go directly to the WP:TEAHOUSE & ask your questions and it would be answered almost instantaneously. Once again, welcome to the family.Celestina007 (talk) 19:08, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! I'm a wikiHow user by the same username, so Wikipedia editing should be easy. Elise (she/her/hers) (talk) 17:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

How do I change my username to reflect my real name? I signed up with my pseudonym but now I want to change my username to reflect my birth name :) Elise (she/her/hers) (talk) 17:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I changed my username! Thanks for the help :D Aditi (she/her/hers) (talk) 17:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice

@Celestina007 I sincerely did not know that other editors had try to create a page for Nengi. I recently joined the WikiProject; Women in Red and my aim is to create profiles for women, mostly Nigerians who deserve a page. You can check my userpage. I will NOT contest the deletion of the page or any other page that violates the community rules. I have no COI/UPE with the subject of this article or any other that I have created. It might turned out to be a good thing that I am on your list, it will guide me to become a better editor. Thank you. MesutOzula (talk) 23:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@MesutOzula, I don’t disbelieve you believe you are making me to believe the story you just conjured. Well why don’t I AGF & move along right? Only time would tell. Celestina007 (talk) 23:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 The word conjured sound quite harsh for someone you have not met in person. If I conjure a story on a faceless community, of what benefit is that to either of us? Comments like that from experienced editors discourage those of us who are still trying to help here. Thank you.

@MesutOzula, this is the archetype & classic response from a/an UPE editor who isn’t new to Wikipedia. I wasn’t wrong after all. You all seem to forget that I wasn’t born last night. Furthermore please WP:SIGN your comments, deliberately forgetting to sign to feign a NEWBIE is also a useless, stupid tactic y’all use. Celestina007 (talk) 00:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Hahaha. You're a complete and an unapologetic conspiracy theorist. I took the time to read through your user page, from top to bottom. I can see that it is of no use arguing with you. Being exposed to such materials you have at your disposal and considering the amount of time you spent here, you will always most certainly win all arguments. I am learning from you though and I am not too ashamed to admit it. I have begun to see your harsh words as belts to buckle up, rather than scathing. I hope to keep the communication line opened though, as I will be needing more mentorship from you. I hope this meets you well. MesutOzula (talk) 00:43, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@MesutOzula, Reverse psychology wouldn’t help here either and what exactly do you mean by materials at my disposal? Winning isn’t the goal here, the goal is to significantly destabilize UPE in Nigeria which I’m pretty good at. Calling me a conspiracy theorist constitutes NPA. The communication lines are always open, but let me remind you that I’ve been here long enough to tell when I’m being bullshitted, other non Nigerian editors may fall for your gimmicks but we both know that wouldn’t work on me, if you so much as create dubious articles any more you’d be blocked from editing here any further. Celestina007 (talk) 00:57, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Your point was made from the word go and has been taken accordingly. I will not be deterred as I consider this a necessary difficulty associated with Wikipedia editing. I shall continue to edit to the best of my knowledge. However, since I am not in Nigeria I will completely boycott any Wikipedia article related to Nigeria and maybe Africa completely. Enjoy the rest of your day/night Sir. Thank you. MesutOzula (talk) 01:10, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@MesutOzula, again, reverse psychology isn’t going to work. Boycott articles on Nigerians all you want, as I stated earlier creating dubious articles would earn you a block regardless of your choice of articles even they are on non Nigerians. Policy mandates me to AGF, even though I clearly know what this is, if you are as clean as you claim then you shouldn’t even encounter me in the first place but per AGF I’m mandated to give you benefit of doubt. You mentioned to Timtrent that prior creating the Nengi Rebecca Hamson article that you have created decent articles in the past, i saw the articles you created & it was decent to be fair, but it isn’t out of character for Upe editors to begin with good articles then clandestinely switch to creating dubious articles, infact that is the MO of a relatively intelligent UPE editor. Ah, like Burnaboy said in Anybody “Wetin person never see Omo wetin person never see” & tbh I’ve seen it all. You Nigerians & Indian editors have thought me this. I wouldn’t be answering any more questions from you. Now allow me to read my Marvel comics in peace. Celestina007 (talk) 01:30, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 The word is actually Taught Sir, but I am sure it is a common error anybody would make. I won't bother you again. Thank you very Sir. MesutOzula (talk) 01:52, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@MesutOzula, ahh yes indeed you are correct. I feel your pain but I’m not going to allow you perpetuate UPE either with this account or any other other account ever again. Celestina007 (talk) 14:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Afaka kidnapping

The name of article should be Afaka Kidnapping where the incident took place and not Kaduna which is the State. Other kidnapping incidents have taken place in Kaduna afterwards, one in a Primary school in Birnin Gwari where Teachers and Students were kidnapped. The Students were later confirmed not abducted by authorities. How many Kaduna kidnapping do you want to have? Important info like the number of abducted have been removed too. UtubeGodwin (talk)

@UtubeGodwin, I dont understand why you are complaining to me about this, I literally had nothing to do with that. I’m afraid I can’t be of help to you. Celestina007 (talk) 14:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Erae_AMS

Thanks for your feedback. I've streamlined references, dropping from sixteen to five which seem to support the article sufficiently. I've also tried to reword the article to adopt a more neutral tone, as you suggested. Would you take another look? 216.150.233.146 (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Flowers for you!

Thanks a million Ma'am for your review on my WP:BLP article on Priyanka Choudhary. These flowers are a small return to give you for my gratitude for the help that you have given.

I just have a small request, I had made a WP:BLP article on Hitesh Bharadwaj much earlier before Priyanka Choudhary and Puneett Chouksey, but no-one has given any review yet :(.

Is it possible that you can give your review on it? --Aleyamma38 (talk) 04:35, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

So the flowers weren’t for free after all? Alright let me see what I can do about those. Celestina007 (talk) 14:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38,  Done, Alright there you go, @fences and windows also helped out so you might want to thank them. Celestina007 (talk) 19:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Thanks a million Ma'am for this support and this cake is again a small token of my love for reviewing the article Hitesh Bharadwaj.

So the flowers weren’t for free after all?

No no Ma'am, of course the flowers are free, the only thing is that, I don't know many people who reviews articles here, which is why I asked your help. My extreme apologies if I bothered you in that process.

Yes Ma'am, fences and windows did give a lot of support on my WP:BLP article on Puneett Chouksey and I did acknowledge it both on the talk page of that article and on fences and windows's talk page too :).--Aleyamma38 (talk) 16:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38, thanks for the cake, It’s funny cos i actually got a sweet tooth. I don’t usually do reviews on request, but it seems like you know how to source an article properly & I don’t see any imperative reason why I can’t be flexible every now and again, so in summary what I’m trying to say is if you create new articles, you can always notify me about them & ask me to review them. Celestina007 (talk) 19:33, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Thanks a million Ma'am for your generosity. Actually, I usually try my level best not to create WP:BLP articles because they are quite difficult and risky to make as we have to be very careful to see if subject attains all criteria of WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. So, I feel agitated until my article gets a review from one of the admins. It's was really a great pleasure of having met you and received your support as a admin who reviewed my WP:BLP articles. Ciao and have a great day Ma'am! :)--Aleyamma38 (talk) 13:00, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

@Aleyamma38, thanks for the kind words, I’m not an admin, a new page reviewer is what I am. No need to feel agitated just let me know anytime you create a new article & I’d review it for you. Celestina007 (talk) 14:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

@Celestina007 Thanks a million again, Ma'am! --Aleyamma38 (talk) 14:29, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy St. Patrick's Day

Happy St. Patrick's Day! I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations. Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk

@TimothyBlue, Aye! thanks mate. I appreciate the message. Celestina007 (talk) 19:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

question

I came across your comment here while compiling this start to an RFC I am planning. Specifically Thanks for calling my attention to this @Bkissin, I’d like to say without an iota of doubt that the Guardian Nigeria is definitely a reliable source as they possess a reputation for fact checking and possess editorial oversight and also state clearly when an article is written by a guest editor or a sponsored post. Celestina007 (talk) 2:06 pm, 19 November 2020, Thursday (3 months, 28 days ago) (UTC−5) and I'm curious if your thoughts are still the same? It does not appear to still be the case as I am increasingly running into blatant PR published under various journalists names in a variety of outlets, including the one discussed at RSN but it's literally a copy of other published articles from other media outlets. VAXIDICAE💉 15:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Praxidicae, sorry for the late response I’ve been feeling quite unwell in the last four days. This is a tough question to be honest as the Guardian Nigeria has always been considered a default Nigerian RS from the 90's up until recently as they have been given me cogent reason to doubt their genuineness. For example, the concerns you raised in your statement and to answer your question, my thoughts aren’t more the same. Celestina007 (talk) 19:25, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Improved Article

Good day Celestina007, I created Mudiwa Hood article and you moved it to draft space stating that it needed more references to meet notable persons guideline, thank you, your move helped me do deeper research to find out the person has more to his biography to add.

So here in Zimbabwe the sources included in the article are actually the top ones if you can research further and see. Mudiwa Hood is the biggest hip hop act in Zimbabwe, the most successful with over 40 awards and many nominations, he is indeed very notable in the country without any doubt.

I have added more information and more sources and I am kindly asking for the article to be published back into mainspace. Zvandofarira2 (talk) 06:12, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you kindly consider moving back Mudiwa Hood into mainspace. http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Mudiwa_Hood Zvandofarira2 (talk) 06:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

We work differently

We also achieve the same end. You are more direct, I approach these matters with infinite kndness. The person who threw the stick may be about to discover that it turns into a boomerang. Fiddle Faddle 22:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent, you are correct. I should also mention that as a friend I appreciate the fact that you are looking out for me. I also appreciate the fact that your approach towards things like this are subtle and not as tough (or “harsh” ) as most Nigerian editors have called me. I’m not harsh, in fact I have received a barnstar for random act of kindness, but the problem is, unlike you who knows how to remain calm even if you know you are being bullshitted, I don’t remain calm & handle what I perceive as covert UPE without kids glove. Honestly if they keep violating our policy on copyright I might have to report them. Celestina007 (talk) 23:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007, I would suggest that you simply make the report.

I look out for you because I value your wok. I would hate it were you to jeopardise that by being over zealous. We catch more wasps with honey than with vinegar Fiddle Faddle 07:40, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

3Music Awards

Hi Celestina! Just a quick question if I may. I've noticed a recent surge in articles on people nominated for 3Music Awards. Namely, we have seen Yaw Tog, Nanky and KaySo (producer). What do you think about these people? They seem to have a notability claim that depends upon whether the 3Music Award nominations confer notability. I'm not familiar with this award and whether or not it is enough. I'm also unfamiliar with a lot of the sources cited. I have noted that you have already submitted Nanky for deletion, which seems fair enough. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@Spiderone, hey there, the problem is the music award isn’t a major music award hence if an article’s subject has that award as a sole claim to notability then the subject of that article isn’t notable. Celestina007 (talk) 19:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

UTC)

@Spiderone, 3Music Awards is the second biggest music awards festival in Ghana aside the Vodafone Ghana Music Awards. You can kindly make your off Wikipedia search to confirm. Thanks 154.160.22.251 (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

I am not always as kind as you believe

I invite you to look at my talk page and at the self identified paid editor's draft, observing or participating at your discretion Fiddle Faddle 20:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent okay I’m not sure why it made me laugh but it did, seeing you vexed is definitely an anomaly, I could have sworn it was me doing the typing, okay enough jokes, but you see how you spoke with conviction when you felt they were trying to play you? That’s the same way I speak when I know I’m being bullshitted. I know BS when I see it but for now I’m taking your advice and recusing myself from engaging them. Celestina007 (talk) 18:00, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

I knew it would make you giggle. It is an anomaly, and I pulled back and gave myself room to think, involving another experienced editor while thinking Fiddle Faddle 18:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent, tbh if you hadn’t told me to just dead it & move on I probably would have over done everything. I took your advice, I’d be a keeping an eye on them but wouldn’t proceed to engage them. In fact they have told me not to message them again & I’m going to respect that but I’d be a close eye on them regardless. Celestina007 (talk) 18:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Wise move. Any evidence can be presented by email, after all. And one cam smile and walk silently away from the creature, trying not to disturb it, all the while calling quietly for its keeper! Fiddle Faddle 19:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

ANI courtesy notification

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Aleyamma38. Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 14:40, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ravensfire, I actually feel bad. If I were around amidst this I probably could have talked them out of such behavior, but I haven’t been feeling well for a long while now thus I’ve been in & out of here. Celestina007 (talk) 17:50, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007, ack! Hopefully you're on the road to feeling better. Long term illness of any type isn't fun. I abhor going to ANI outside of the really obvious stuff. There's a feeling of me failing in my interaction with that person, and here it just didn't make sense. I totally understand that they don't like people changing or flagging possible issues in their articles, but that's normal around here and doesn't mean any hostility. I'm hopeful they'll come back after the block without some of the drama. Collaboration is so much easier. If you have a chance and the energy, would you mind look at Priyanka Choudhary and the talk page and see what you think. Out of courtesy to Aleyamma38, I'm not going to do anything AFD-wise until they return. I'm looking for some additional thoughts as right now, it just feels a bit WP:TOOSOON. Thanks, hope you're feeling better soon! Ravensfire (talk) 18:06, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Ravensfire, Thanks, I’m way better now. Yeah, about the article, I’d definitely do just that. Celestina007 (talk) 18:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!
	Dear Celestina007, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!. scope_creepTalk 11:07, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Help needed on another not notable article

Hi Celestina007, I came across this article some months ago, I didn't pay attention to it until now. Kwame Baah (musician). 1. it looks like the article was actually created by the subject in the article. 2. The subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability tag, From what I noticed because the subject in question is a so called ''Digital Marketting Expert'', I have a feeling this article was to get him popular or something. Kindly have a look at it for me. thanks. and thanks gain for the previous help. Ampimd (talk) 02:12, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ampimd, yes, it is definitely a non notable autobiography and once again I can’t seem to fathom how a blatant self promotional article has been on mainspace for three years. I’ve sent it to AFD, thanks for making another nab. Celestina007 (talk) 12:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Many thanks for your advice! CommanderWaterford (talk) 22:08, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford, anytime, thanks also for listening I was pissed at something recently and it took the advice given to me by Timtrent, to realize my own shortcomings. The advice they gave me was the same advice I gave you. Thanks for your contributions. Stay safe. Celestina007 (talk) 14:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford and Celestina, the giving of advice is the easy part. The truly hard part is to take a pause, understand the advice, pause again and then accept or reject it with a good heart. The fundamental part is the pause.

We all need to remember, yes, me too, that nothing, repeat nothing, is ever urgent on Wikipedia. This is especially true when we are committed emotionally to a position. And this is true whether we are right or wrong.

Not all advice is good. Some is absolute rubbish. The pause gives us time to breathe, time to think, time to be our best selves Fiddle Faddle 14:23, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Well spoken and very much apt! Celestina007 (talk) 15:01, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Elijah Onyeagba

Thank you for the edit and suggestions that have been for additional sources on my article. I wish to source for more sources to meet the criteria as you have indicated. Kindly endeavor to notify me any other suggestions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torksimlife (talk • contribs) 08:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak already told you here all there is to be said & if you aren’t listening to them it’s very unlikely that you would listen to me. Celestina007 (talk) 09:50, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

why is this page

what is wrong in this article im going to improve itHardyisback11188 (talk) 07:12, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Ummm what page? Celestina007 (talk) 11:06, 27 March 2021 (UTC)