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I am going to work on the kinks (and also see if there would be any takers in the commercial market) before I would want to make the SVG available. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 08:30, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Vector now at File:Flag of Evansville, IN.svg. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 18:46, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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Can you please clarify your IRC comments?

Can you please clarify your comments about how you are being actively discriminated against because you are a white English speaking heterosexual male from the United States? Especially against the context of the known systematic bias Wikimedia has in regards to women and in a discussion about a women's only leadership conference? As a white heterosexual male, do you really feel you are not privileged? Do you really feel you are discriminated against? Can you please explain this and put it into the context for how this impacts your engagement on English Wikipedia? In our previous conversation, I never realised you had concerns about being actively discriminated against because of your white English speaking heterosexual male from the United State status. How can I help you feel less discriminated against in our future dealings on Wikimedia projects? --LauraHale (talk) 22:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Evansville

I'd be happy to help reserve the library. Could you remind me of the date and time I should reserve? --YHoshua (talk) 02:07, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

The West Branch Library auditorium (in the basement) has been reserved for the meetup on 30 June 2012 from noon until 4pm. Thanks!--YHoshua (talk) 16:12, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Food can be brought to the library meeting rooms for a $25 Fee, which I'm happy to cover. The only other rules are rather obvious: No alcohol, controlled substance or tobacco use, etc. Thanks!--YHoshua (talk) 02:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice! Looking forward to coming. Nyttend backup (talk) 03:15, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Just posted a photo idea at the suggestions page; I'd appreciate your opinion. Nyttend (talk) 22:21, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

interested in what the campus ambassador project is about.

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Auto taxobox

Could you please take a look at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Birds#Automatic_taxoboxes. TIA Shyamal (talk) 03:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Automatic taxoboxes

I was playing around yesterday with the speciesbox and automatic taxoboxes, and looked like a nice feature to gradually move to. I changed Baikal Teal just to see if it would work, and it worked like a charm. I was then going to try to create a genus auto taxobox for Lophonetta, but couldn't figure out how to start one for a monotypic genus, since it doesn't have a regular taxobox to convert (thought I'd try something small before I tackled something larger). Do I create a page as if I'm creating a new article? I also see there are some issues with expansion depth? Thought I'd ask before I do any more......Pvmoutside (talk) 14:43, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(lurker) I don't think you want to create a new article or anything if it's a monospecific genus. You can go ahead and create template:Taxonomy/Lophonetta specularioides and template:Taxonomy/Lophonetta, just have them both point to Crested Duck. ie: |link=Crested Duck|L. specularioides and |link=Crested Duck|Lophonetta respectively. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 15:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you're enjoying the {{automatic taxobox}}! See Rebellatrix for an example of how a monotypic genus is handled at the genus level (as opposed to the species level). But I think Erik may be correct here. I could be mistaken, but the policies seem to be as follows:

• Extant taxa: Species level, always. All species should have an article.
• Extinct taxa: Unless multiple species are known, genus level, always. Do not write a species article unless you have species-specific information.

When you set up an automatic taxobox, you always will need to create a new taxon template, unless you're setting up a {{speciesbox}}, {{subspeciesbox}}, or {{infraspeciesbox}} for a taxon that already has the parent taxon template set up. We've set up a considerable amount of documentation at {{automatic taxobox/doc}}. I'd recommend checking that out and following that with any questions you still have.

Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:FAUNA, even for extant taxa don't bother with the species article if there's only one species in the genus. Interestingly, though, for Crested Duck I don't know what you'd do differently if you wanted it to be an article about the genus instead of the species—it doesn't really matter much, since the "scientific" names aren't used. :). ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 22:05, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Interestingly, that was an undiscussed "bold" change[1] made by an editor who focuses on extinct taxa. To date, I haven't seen any extant taxa that follow his revision's guidelines, and I look at a ton of monotypic genus articles. I think this should be opened up for discussion and changed back since the pre-2010 convention still seems to be in place today. Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For taking the time to assist in reviewing and tweaking {{has-NFUR}} Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Birdbox

Hi Bob, I happened to look at the PDF generation of pages with the Birdbox template. It seems to be generating some errors that may perhaps be fixable. (Was looking at Common Babbler) Shyamal (talk) 08:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I hacked on this a bit. I don't know the technical detail that inserts the bad PDF code ("unknown operator: u'strong'" is the message I get from Preview.app). But I did conjure up a minimal test-case for triggering it:

• simple demonstration of the bug
• non-bugged

Inner workings of the parserfunctions are beyond me; maybe someone else can figure out what's "different" about this. DMacks (talk) 17:22, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

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The Wikipedia Adventure: Request for feedback on Community Fellowship proposal

Hi! I'm contacting you because you have participated or discussed The Wikipedia Adventure learning tutorial/game idea. I think you should know about a current Community Fellowship proposal to create the game with some Wikimedia Foundation support. Your feedback on the proposal would be very much appreciated. I should note that the feedback is for the proposal, not the proposer, and even if the Fellowship goes forward it might be undertaken by presently not-mentioned editors. Thanks again for your consideration.

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WP Takes America

There's really not much left in Bloomington; if you look at the subpages of User:Nyttend/Bloomington HDs, you'll see that I've gotten a couple thousand images in the city. I don't think I'd want to come down to Evansville just for this purpose, but if you'd like we could try for some city in between. Nyttend (talk) 00:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Can't immediately suggest a city; I've gotten every single National Register site southwest of Indianapolis, and NR sites are the big emphasis of the monuments portion of WP Takes America. I can't immediately think of cities that would have a decent number of other photo-worthy sites; do you have any suggestions? With the end of summer classes, I'm visiting family in Ohio for a week and a half, but I'll still be keeping Indiana in mind. Nyttend (talk) 00:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

If you're willing to go that far north, I can't object. I visited Turkey Run and Shades last summer with friends, but I was basically just along for the ride; if I remember rightly, this and this are the only images I got from the whole trip. In general, I've gotten fewer photos in Parke and Montgomery counties than in almost anywhere else in western Indiana. Nyttend (talk) 02:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Taxobox

Hi Bob! I'm a wikipedian from Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu. I'm interested in updating Malay Wikipedia taxobox and I saw your username as one of the active contributors in English Wikipedia Taxobox template. Can you help me about the template coding? Or maybe if you busy, you can suggest to me the right person to help me. Thanks in advance! Izhamwong (talk) 11:10, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Undulopsychopsis

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Possible page move

Hi Bob, I was wondering if you could move the article at Eucommia to the species page Eucommia ulmoides which is currently a redirect to the genus. I'm working on writing up the North American fossil species and would love to have a simplified genus article to link them to rather then the genus/species combo page that's there now. Thanks! As a note, I cross-posted this request on Graeme Bartlett's talk also, in case you are not wanting to be too active right now :-). --Kevmin § 07:49, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

•  Done Moved it, Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!--Kevmin § 18:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Translation request

Hi Bob. I saw you listed yourself as willing to perform German to English translation. Would you be willing to translate de:Ladiner into English, presumably to Ladin people. Ladin language already has a good article, and Ladinia exists as a poor stub I started (which I created from es:Ladinia, but now there is no Spanish equivalent for me to work from!). It doesn't have to be perfect, just workable. Anyway, for whatever reason, this part of the world seems to be off the radar of English-speakers.

PS. If you respond to this request later than 24 hours from when I made it, please leave me a talkback message. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 03:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

2010 IAF Sikorsky CH-53 crash

Hi Bob. In early August, you helped me move this deleted article (which was initially deleted although I significantly improved it during an AfD, and although the AfD almost ended in a tie) so that I would be able to continue improving it. Meanwhile, I have made a major revamp to the original article with the help of other users as well, many sources were added to the article, and eventually it was moved back to the article main space after all the original concerns were addressed. Nevertheless, today the user User:WilliamJE has nominated the article for speedy deletion. Because of this, I would appreciate if you could intervene in this dispute, as a non-involved, objective third party, so that we would be able to resolve this dispute fairly, in accordance with Wikipedia's policy, and in accordance with the consensus of the community. Thanks. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 00:44, 24 September 2012 (UTC)