A couple of things

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Please use Help:Edit summary when you edit, to make it easier for other editors to understand what you are doing. Also, when you add names like here:[1], use capital letters as in Osman and Nikola. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:39, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

ok i will make sure next time Bluesapphire1999 (talk) 10:46, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps you already know this, but if you have any questions about editing Wikipedia, Wikipedia:Teahouse is a good place to start. Happy editing! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:55, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply


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Proposed deletion of Fatma Hatun

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The article Fatma Hatun has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This book [2] does indeed state on p33 that Osman had at least one daughter, but that's it. WP:GNG is very far away. No good sources, no article.

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Also, if you intend to keep editing WP, you should learn about WP:RS and how to add citations correctly (see WP:TUTORIAL on how), if you want to make articles that can "stick" on en-WP, this is essential. No good sources, no content. Good sources for articles about history are history-books. See also WP:BACKWARD and WP:YFA. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:30, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Nomination of Fatma Hatun for deletion

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Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:45, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

I am not praticipating now
no worries
thankyou so much. Bluesapphire1999 (talk) 15:57, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
One reason Ertugrul and his relatives are so good for drama is that there is very little established fact about much of their lives, so the scriptwriters can fill their lives with whatever they want without necessarily going outside established history. They do that anyway of course, since history is often slow and boring. And they're not making documentaries, but quite successful crowd-pleasers. "History as it should have been" is I think the goal.
Like Mehmet Bozdağ said: "There is no certainty in this historical data. But history has a soul. We think that we describe the spirit of the 13th century in history. We are shaping a story by dreaming." That's fine for story, but history is something else. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:50, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

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yes actually hanim is a turkish word for some noble woman Bluesapphire1999 (talk) 06:04, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Nomination of Malhun Hatun (fictional character) for deletion

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What is the need of deletion? Bluesapphire1999 (talk) 03:37, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your recent edits

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What is your rationale for removing sourced content from the article Yıldız Çağrı Atiksoy? It appears to be a case of WP:OWN at this point, whereby you pretty much don't let anyone else edit the article. Also beware of the WP:3RR rule. Which you are in danger of violating. Keivan.fTalk 11:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)Reply