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Books & Bytes – Issue 63

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The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 63, May – June 2024

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A barnstar for you

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  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This is for your tireless contributions related to Arab-Israeli conflict. Pachu Kannan (talk) 08:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

ITN recognition for ICJ case on Israel's occupation of the Palestinian territories

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On 20 July 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article ICJ case on Israel's occupation of the Palestinian territories, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 09:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

DYK for Georg Kareski

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On 24 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Georg Kareski, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Zionist activist Georg Kareski defended the Nuremberg Laws in a Nazi newspaper? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Georg Kareski. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Georg Kareski), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Complex/Rational 00:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

DYK for Software maintenance

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On 28 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Software maintenance, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that some estimate that maintenance of existing software costs up to nine times as much as creating it in the first place? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Software maintenance. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Software maintenance), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

PMC(talk) 00:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

CS1 error on Nicolas Guillou

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  Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Nicolas Guillou, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows:

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Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 14:21, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Seattle Wiknic 11 August 2024

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2024 Seattle Wiknic | 11 August 2024
 
  • What: Picnic to eat food and chat with other Wikimedians
  • When: Sunday 11 August 2024, noon–3 pm
  • Where: picnic tables in the meadow area at Washington Park Arboretum
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(t · c) buidhe 04:37, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

DABifying Razakar

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You might want to drop by the AFD, where I proposed that solution. DABifying it while the AFD it ongoing might look confusing to others. DMacks (talk) 08:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Crimes against humanity category removal on Feb 14th 2024

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Hello! I am reaching out to say that I've noticed several articles relating to warcrimes committed by Imperial Japan in World War 2 have been removed from their categories due to 'not being prosecuted'. I responded to this claim irt Sook Ching (here). The perpetrators of these warcrimes were persecuted across the minor trials which took place as part of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East and subsequent minor trials. These events were prosecuted for Class B and C warcriminals which qualifies them by this standard. I would appreciate your help in restoring these category tags for crimes which were prosecuted as apart of those trials. I am a relatively new editor and not entirely familiar with how to find the list to manually check them. Relm (talk) 21:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Relmcheatham, thanks for your comment. If an event was prosecuted as a crime against humanity (as opposed to a war crime—separate area of law), I think it would be fair to include, assuming it is a WP:DEFINING aspect of the topic—which may not be the case. (For example, the legal classification of the Srebrenica massacre as genocide is defining, but the classification of the same event as a crime against humanity is not.) However, as it is the Sook Ching article does not even mention "crimes against humanity" or "crime against humanity". Without a source, the category fails WP:VER. (t · c) buidhe 04:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the reply! I apologize since I typed that message while rather tired and conflated some things in my response in a way that was not clear. Officers involved in Sook Ching were tried as Class C war criminals - which means that they were tried for Crimes Against Humanity in the Singapore trials. I listed a source which says this. If I understand what you are saying, I would need to add that source to the Sook Ching article - presumably as part of expanding the 'trial' section to mention it. Would this be sufficient or am I missing something that would be required? Or are you saying that unless secondary sources specifically refer to Sook Ching as a crime against humanity - even if it was tried as such - that it can not be reflected in the tags? I'd love to help expand on these articles so any feedback on how to do so appropriately would be greatly appreciated! Relm (talk) 21:15, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Looking at some of the sources already on the page, they also refer to Sook Ching as a Crime against humanity. So I think it should be easy to add even without incorporating new sources. Relm (talk) 21:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think it would be a great idea to add the information to the article, but I'm still skeptical that wp:defining is met-which also requires that "crime against humanity is what sources are consistently labeling the event (please see the categorization rules). Instead I would consider creating and populating Category:Crimes prosecuted at the Tokyo trial (t · c) buidhe 22:40, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Torture template reverts

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It is not required that Hell be described on the torture article in order to have Hell listed in the template. I'm not sure what your point was regarding the "legal definition". I gave no mention of a deity. There's no definition saying Hell is limited to Earth or this current existence. While it is true that not all religions say Hell is a place of torture, this is the general viewpoint, as is prominently mentioned right near the beginning of the Hell article itself. This is not my POV. I never added such a description to the Hell article. This is the general viewpoint of what this place entails. Helper201 (talk) 18:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Helper201 The scope of the template is defined in the article torture, not torture (disambiguation). (t · c) buidhe 18:35, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Is there actually any Wikipedia guideline specifically stating a template is limited to what its related article describes? Helper201 (talk) 18:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I believe that the scope of each template is determined by consensus. If there is no consensus to include the religion aspect, it will be left out. (t · c) buidhe 20:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
So there's actually no guideline against this. This feels like its falling under WP:OWNBEHAVIOR. Helper201 (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
WP:ONUS: "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." (t · c) buidhe 17:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Per the ownership behaviour guideline - "An editor reverts a good-faith change without providing an edit summary that refers to relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, previous reviews and discussions, reliable sources, or specific grammar or prose problems introduced by the edit." Helper201 (talk) 20:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome to seek consensus for your change. I already explained why I think it does not belong in the template. (t · c) buidhe 01:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Notify

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BM taking your name in vain at AE and neglecting to notify you, so I will do it for him. Selfstudier (talk) 18:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

FAR

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I have nominated The Supremes for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:33, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Precious anniversary

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Precious
 
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

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