A Fellow Editor

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Boldfacing of redirect targets talkpage blurb

example w/ markup

Boldfacing of redirect target The initial instance of the term Example has been boldfaced as a redirect target term (i.e. as a term in an article or section targeted by a redirect page; e.g. Example)—a practice recommended by WP:R#ASTONISH, MOS:BOLD#OTHER, and MOS:BOLD#TITLE—so as to help orient readers arriving from redirect links elsewhere and as an example of best practice inline with Wikipedia policy and guidelines. This is also done, at the first occurrence in running text, of a term that is redirected to the article or one of its sub-sections, whether the term appears in the lead or not. — MOS:BOLD Thanks for your time and attention, Example (talk) 23:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC) ... as wiki markup ... == Boldfacing of redirect target == The initial instance of the term ''XXXXXXX'' has been boldfaced as a redirect target term (''[[i.e.]]'' as a term in an article or section targeted by a redirect page; ''[[e.g.]]'' {{-r|XXXXXXX})—a practice recommended by [[WP:R#ASTONISH]], [[MOS:BOLD#OTHER]], and [[MOS:BOLD#TITLE]]—so as to help orient readers arriving from redirect links elsewhere and as an example of [[best practice]] inline with [[WP:PG|Wikipedia policy and guidelines]]. {{quote| This is also done, at the first occurrence in running text, of a term that is redirected to the article or one of its sub-sections, whether the term appears in the lead or not.|[[MOS:BOLD#Article title terms|MOS:BOLD]] }} Thanks for your time and attention, ~~~~ ... plural in markup ... == Boldfacing of redirect targets == The initial instances of the terms ''XXXXXXX'' and ''YYYYYYY'' have been boldfaced as redirect target terms (''[[i.e.]]'' as terms in an article or section targeted by redirect pages; ''[[e.g.]]'' {{-r|XXXXXXX}} and {{-r|YYYYYYY}})—a practice recommended by [[WP:R#ASTONISH]], [[MOS:BOLD#OTHER]], and [[MOS:BOLD#TITLE]]—so as to help orient readers arriving from redirect links elsewhere and as an example of [[best practice]] inline with [[WP:PG|Wikipedia policy and guidelines]]. {{quote| This is also done, at the first occurrence in running text, of a term that is redirected to the article or one of its sub-sections, whether the term appears in the lead or not.|[[MOS:BOLD#Article title terms|MOS:BOLD]] }} Thanks for your time and attention, ~~~~ talkpage blurb example, in situ

Fun-n-functional

graphic communication
File:Symbol thumbs up.svg [[File:Symbol thumbs up.svg|18px]] File:Face-wink.svg [[File:Face-wink.svg|20px]] File:Fuochi d'artificio.gif [[File:Fuochi d'artificio.gif|20px|border]] File:AuberginenTroll.png _ _ ___ ___ _ _ "I like turtles" --–A Fellow Editor– 23:42, 18 January 1932 (UTC)

unicode
http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_arrows.html http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/27f6/index.htm " ⟶ "

Selected imagery

pictures wot amused me
Elizabeth Barrett Browning by Károly Brocky "... fucking geckos!" Peek-A-Moo! "That's deep!" Beach of Irony ooh, trippy ... well ... shit. a flame aflame Origin of the Feces microbial art Still Life: Vase with Pink Roses Intentional camera movement tnx EricEnfermero!

ASCII tidbits

cowsay fortunes

____________________________________ / Mr. Cole's Axiom: \ | | | The sum of the intelligence on the | | planet is a constant; | | | \ the population is growing. / ------------------------------------ \ . _ . \ |\_|/__/| / / \/ \ \ /__|O||O|__ \ |/_ \_/\_/ _\ | | | (____) | || \/\___/\__/ // (_/ || | || | ||\ \ //_/ \______// __ || __|| (____(____) ______________________________ / Keep cool, but don't freeze. \ | | \ -- Hellman's Mayonnaise / ------------------------------ \ . . \ / `. .' " \ .---. < > < > .---. \ | \ \ - ~ ~ - / / | _____ ..-~ ~-..-~ | | \~~~\.' `./~~~/ --------- \__/ \__/ .' O \ / / \ " (_____, `._.' | } \/~~~/ `----. / } | / \__/ `-. | / | / `. ,~~| ~-.__| /_ - ~ ^| /- _ `..-' | / | / ~-. `-. _ _ _ |_____| |_____| ~ - . _ _ _ _ _> _____________________________________ / A bird in the hand makes it awfully \ \ hard to blow your nose. / ------------------------------------- \ \ . .---. // Y|o o|Y// /_(i=i)K/ ~()~*~()~ (_)-(_) Darth Vader koala _________________________________________ / Q: What lies on the bottom of the ocean \ \ and twitches? A: A nervous wreck. / ----------------------------------------- \ \ \_______ v__v \ \ O ) (oo) ||----w | (__) || || \/\ _________________________________________ / There *is* no such thing as a civil \ \ engineer. / ----------------------------------------- \ __ \ (oo) \ ( ) \ /--\ __ / \ \ UooU\.'@@@@@@`.\ ) \__/(@@@@@@@@@@) / (@@@@@@@@)(( `YY~~~~YY' \\ || || >> ______________________________________ / The explanation requiring the fewest \ | assumptions is the most likely to be | | correct. | | | \ -- William of Occam / -------------------------------------- \ / \ //\ \ |\___/| / \// \\ /0 0 \__ / // | \ \ / / \/_/ // | \ \ @_^_@'/ \/_ // | \ \ //_^_/ \/_ // | \ \ ( //) | \/// | \ \ ( / /) _|_ / ) // | \ _\ ( // /) '/,_ _ _/ ( ; -. | _ _\.-~ .-~~~^-. (( / / )) ,-{ _ `-.|.-~-. .~ `. (( // / )) '/\ / ~-. _ .-~ .-~^-. \ (( /// )) `. { } / \ \ (( / )) .----~-.\ \-' .~ \ `. \^-. ///.----..> \ _ -~ `. ^-` ^-_ ///-._ _ _ _ _ _ _}^ - - - - ~ ~-- ,.-~ /.-~ ________________________________________ / It'll be a nice world if they ever get \ \ it finished. / ---------------------------------------- \ ____ \ / \ | ^__^ | | (oo) |______ | (__) | )\/\ \____/|----w | || || Moofasa

Reflections

Things wot I've learned

Look before you leap At this point—December 2017, multiple years into my Wikipedia editing experience—I've found editors to have widely varying sensibilities and community socio-political status (and, sadly, those don't always align as one might hope/expect) ... I now most always check a user's "View user groups" and "Logs">"Block logs" info links (offered in sidebar when viewing userpages in the desktop browser interface; check relevance of default " Performer:" and "Target:" settings in the log interface) before interacting with them. A sort of assume good faith while also pragmatically checking for supporting data approach. If one feels an incentive to be more thorough, a glance at an editor's userpage and their user talkpage – and talkpage history (especially if their are indications of frequent archiving/deletion) – can help get a sense of what one's 'getting into' and a quick random skim through "User contributions" may offer insight as well (even if just to get a sense of their communication style in edit summaries). ––A Fellow Editor–

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Post new entries below preceding ones, please.

Thanks. :  }

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Sig

If you like what I did with your signature - A Fellow Editor - the mark-up should be:

'''<span style="font-family:FreeSans; letter-spacing:-0.07em; text-shadow:#CCCCAA 0.1em 0.2em 0.2em;">[[User:A Fellow Editor|<span style="color:#BB8822; font-variant:small-caps;">''A&nbsp;Fellow''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:A Fellow Editor|<span style="color:#773333;">Editor</span>]]</span>'''

For your user page:

{{DISPLAYTITLE:<span style="font-family:FreeSans; font-weight:bold; font-size:1.5em; letter-spacing:-0.07em; text-shadow:#CCCCAA 0.1em 0.2em 0.2em;"><span style="position:absolute; top:-9999px;">User:</span><span style="color:#BB8822; font-variant:small-caps;">''A Fellow''</span> <span style="color:#773333;">Editor</span></span>}}

And for your talk page:

{{DISPLAYTITLE:<span style="font-family:FreeSans; font-weight:bold; font-size:1.5em; letter-spacing:-0.07em; text-shadow:#CCCCAA 0.1em 0.2em 0.2em;"><span style="position:absolute; top:-9999px;">User talk:</span><span style="color:#BB8822; font-variant:small-caps;">''A Fellow''</span> <span style="color:#773333;">Editor</span></span>}}

That should solve a few minor issues, with a couple of improvements thrown in. Regards, nagualdesign 04:56, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the sharing code examples; had to edit the sig to get it under the strict 255 character limit (but that's OK, the drop shadow was probably a bit too fancy for my egalitarian username anyhow).

'''<span style="font-family:FreeSans; letter-spacing:-0.07em;">[[User:A Fellow Editor|<span style="color:#BB8822; font-variant:small-caps;">''A Fellow''</span>]] [[User talk:A Fellow Editor|<span style="color:#773333;">Editor</span>]]</span>'''

... Comes in at 254 according to my test editor ... now to see if the WikiP Widget agrees ...

A Fellow Editor ... yep ... I might yet sacrifice the non-breaking spaces ( ) to get my bracketing dashes effect back though ... errr... ( ) rather. funny that (<code>&nbsp;</code>) failed; hadta' use {{code}}. [note: Argghh, look at the markup; the template didn't render it all either (in Chrome on Linux)]

Anyway, am thinking somehting like --A Fellow Editor--

--'''<span style="font-family:FreeSans; letter-spacing:-0.07em;">[[User:A Fellow Editor|<span style="color:#BB8822; font-variant:small-caps;">''A Fellow''</span>]] [[User talk:A Fellow Editor|<span style="color:#773333;">Editor</span>]]</span>'''--

Hmm, gonna' go with 'en-dashes' instead; more streamlined aesthetic. (and darken a bit)

Thanks for the tips and inspiration, --–A Fellow Editor– 08:51, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'd tried to get the signature encoding down to a minimum, but I hadn't realized I'd exceeded the limit. Ah well. The non-breaking space is a HTML entity, which supersedes most wiki mark-up regardless of which browser you use. If you want to show it rendered as   you have to type   since replacing the ampersand (&) with & stops HTML entities from rendering. The reason I put them into the sig was obviously to stop it from line wrapping, which I thought was important, but of course that's entirely up to you. Regarding the dashes and other symbols; sometimes I find the encoding for the HTML entity, copy that into my wiki mark-up, click "Show preview" to see it rendered, then copy the rendered symbol wherever I wish. That way you can convert several characters (eg, —) into a single character (—). Unfortunately that doesn't work with  . nagualdesign 19:55, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Code compression

I had an idea: -—<b style="font-family:FreeSans;letter-spacing:-0.05em;text-shadow:#CCA 0.1em 0.2em 0.2em">[[User:A Fellow Editor|<i style="color:#AC7D20;font-variant:small-caps">A&nbsp;Fellow</i>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:A Fellow Editor|<b style="color:#6B2E2E">Editor]]</b>– gives you -—A Fellow Editor– in exactly 255 characters!

Even if you don't use it I thought you might find the principles of code compression interesting, and maybe useful in the future. Since it isn't obvious I should point out that the signature begins with a hyphen (-) followed by an — (—) and ends with an – (–). nagualdesign 06:47, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

"Even if ... might find the principles of code compression interesting, and maybe useful in the future." – I like the way you think. :  } Tnx nagualdesign, --–A Fellow Editor– 09:44, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Alack and alas, I tried to enter:

–<b style="font-family:FreeSans;letter-spacing:-0.05em">[[User:A Fellow Editor|<i style="color:#AC7D20;font-variant:small-caps">A Fellow</i>]] [[User talk:A Fellow Editor|<b style="color:#6B2E2E">Editor]]</b>–

... as my sig on my Meta acct.(and since, @ en:WP as well) and it returned error "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." --–A Fellow Editor– 10:53, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

That's odd. It's probably the fact that there's a </b> missing immediately after final Editor (I was pushing it a bit) but since it works here I thought it would be okay. Well, you know what thought did! (It followed a muck cart and thought it was a wedding.) At least we learned something. nagualdesign 16:32, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Ah, well as I already excised the drop-shadow and lead hyphen + emdash (too fancy/overstated for what I'm going for here; great if I was going for some sort of commercial for-profit branding though, really 'pops' and 'swooshes', kudos!) there should actually now be room for that additional </b> ... Which gets me the non-breaking spaces back that I previously sacrificed ... plus some 'wiggle room'. You know what they say, When you throw a muck cart against a wall ... some of it sticks!"

Extra </b> did the trick ⟶ –A Fellow Editor– 17:47, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Good stuff. nagualdesign 17:56, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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Came across this at User talk:EEng#ANI Experiences survey ...

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... Seems like a nice opportunity to offer feedback. --–A Fellow Editor– 22:37, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Check 'em out

Hi EEng, I was browsing Commons a bit and collected some images in a gallery above in § pictures wot amused me. Thought a few of 'em might be suitable for service in your trove-of-tidbits. --–A Fellow Editor– 00:58, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

[1] EEng 02:06, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

excellent! --–A Fellow Editor– 02:18, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

tnx 4 d nod

Hi EEng, I dropped in to dust off some cobwebs & came across: Screenshot (on Imgur) related diff, cool!
Have these variations on a gem (Commons) made it into your collection yet? ––A Fellow Editor– 21:18, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

My deepest thanks for bringing the defecating seagull to my attention. I've added it to the arsenal [2]. I'm sure it will come in handy at some point. EEng 21:30, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi again EEng, I found another for ya'. The black field to the upper left seems like it might lend itself to a text blurb. --––A Fellow Editor– 22:38, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

What niche of the Wikipedia ecosystem do you suppose this grotesque inhabits? EEng 03:37, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

"Way out in the water, See it swimming" – Pixies, Where Is My Mind

... came to me for a general off-wiki audience.

But as far as on-wiki goes it struck me as something to tuck away until something emergent arises. Perhaps a vehicle for one's first person voice rather than commentary from a removed zoological observer's perspective. Something swimming out of the darkness to give a look and comment, "Tut, tut, I see you!", before fading back into its own murky depths. With a different background a top hat might be adorable. --––A Fellow Editor– 13:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Lada

I just asked you on Talk:Lada (disambiguation) if a note at the dab project would help to encourage more opinions, but I'd forgotten I'd come from there originally. You're right that it's time to discuss, but during a SNOW oppose RM, there's really no obligation to not edit, and there was many guideline based reasons to do normal dab cleanup. I shall now leave for others to comment, or just for someone to close. Regards Widefox; talk 13:21, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

RfC about river disambiguation conventions

https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#rfc_832FABC --–A Fellow Editor– 14:10, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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