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I would be very pleased to help you. Do you have a specific article in mind? I am curious to know what brought me to your attention. Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:38, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

This should be VERY useful to you.

Here. Allows you to search for additional charts. Erick (talk) 20:07, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Lolz I been knew about this about a couple days ago... I forgot to mention this to you but after I was done with my search I had an important situation in RL. Hopefully this is permanent if not, I was thinking about doing the List of number one Latin Regional Digital Songs chart (2012), List of number one Latin Digital Songs chart, etc before they go into "sub only" mode. Best, Jonatalk to me 23:07, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Well if it's not permanent, the better way would be to archive instead. Digital Songs are not significant as a stand alone chart because Latin Songs are what you called component charts. They are not notable to add unless for some reason, it didn't rank on the main chart. You can read about them here.
Yea I did archive them if you had read the article. Well several of Selena's songs never charted on the Latin Songs chart since the release of Enamorada de Ti, which about 4-8 of her songs peaked within the top ten so that's good news =) Best, Jonatalk to me 13:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

This too...

I saw |this and |this while checking ref - basically the actress who played Selena's killer in the film has died. I thought the refs might be useful to you somewhere. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:05, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Yea I heard on fb =( but thanks for the RS that I'll save =) Best, Jonatalk to me 23:07, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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Missing My Baby

Hi AJona, I hope all is well with you. I'm just beginning the copy-edit you requested on the above article at the ... oh, you know the routine by now! Drop me a line, revert or correct etc if you see any problems with my work. I see that I copy-edited that article in March, but I'll try to improve the language for FAC, which will probably mean using full quotes and i will check the sources where I can. I don't understand Spanish by the way. :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:54, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey good friend =) I don't know Spanish either :/ but the song is an English-language song so it won't be that complicated =) Best, Jonatalk to me 02:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks ;-) Some Selena articles use lots of Spanish-language references. I've changed a lot of text, you might want to review the c/e. I've also found one copy of a referenced article that's not behind a paywall, and replaced the 'newslink' url. I'll return later to check the rest of the references to see if I can find publicly accessible copies - it's always good to have refs I can check :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:52, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Yea but at least they are all free copies, in which case I have to ask fellow editors to translate and if not google.translate is always a good buddy lolz. I just reviewed it and its great! I was wondering why you delink Marvin Gaye in the article, and I'm wondering if the use of "the editor, stated" is a bit too repetitive for FAC? Other than that, its ready for FAC =) Best, Jonatalk to me 15:00, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks :-) I've tried to find other 'free' versions of the articles but could not, so I'll archive the one I found and change a few bits. Yes, 'editor' is overused - if we don't know the authors' names we can just say, for example, "The Houston Times said that the song was nice, but needed a better drummer", or something similar. Most writers aren't editor, but some editors are writers. :-) I de-linked Marvin Gaye and Diana Ross because I thought the links were superfluous, but I'll add Marvin's back because none of his songs are linked as one of Diana's is. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Well the newspaper did not write the review an editor did but I was wondering if there was an alternative so people at FAC won't bring that up? Best, Jonatalk to me 01:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

My convention is; "The Houston Times said that the song was nice", but "Fred Smith of The Houston Times wrote that the song was nice" - sometimes this doesn't work well but mostly it does. I wouldn't say "an editor wrote..." unless the source tells me that Fred Smith, who wrote the article, edits the publication. Acceptable alternatives for 'said' etc, according to WP:SAY are "Said, stated, described, wrote, and according to" - other terms can appear loaded.

I'd like to see longer quotes used - preferably full sentences - in articles where possible; it's so easy to misquote and we can't check most of the references used. But I'm not a FAC reviewer - you can only do as the reviewer suggests and hope for the best. Anyway I'll declare the copy-edit Done and wish you good luck with the review. :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for another outstanding c/e! I have fixed the overuse of "album", linked Leslie Gore since there is no other mention of her, and I have fixed some referencing style per FAC guidelines. The only problem I see with the article (not in your part) is FN#4, since I'm away from my home right now I don't have a physical copy available and I can't see no YouTube videos of it which is odd since there were a couple of videos of the documentary on there :/ But anyways I will submit the article to FAC once FN#4 is addressed so a reviewer won't complain about it =) Best, Jonatalk to me 13:19, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you IMDb =) lolz I found it and add all crew and technical people. I will now submit the article to FAC. Thank you once again =) Best, Jonatalk to me 13:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
No worries; I hope it goes well at FAC :-). Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you =) BTW what ever happened to Blake's 7? Jonatalk to me 22:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I kind of lost heart when I started working on the GOCE request queue, but I still intend to do further work on it. WP:DEADLINE comes to mind - a winter project, perhaps... ;-) Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Copyediting request

I have, today, made a start ... see this ... what do you think? Does this style suit you? If not , please say. I won't be offended. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:58, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Gareth, I hope Ajona doesn't mind me posting here. You should use American (US) English for Selena articles per WP:ENGVAR - I noted an instance of 'favoured' instead of 'favored'; it's not really a big deal but it's for FA and as they say at Tesco, every little helps. :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:21, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
No worries; you should also mark the GOCE request as Working so that other editors don't jump in unawares, and Done when you're finished. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks baffle gab =) Also, the mention of EMI Latin is needed per WP:PCR. Thanks for starting the c/e on the article! Best, Jonatalk to me 12:19, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Drive Award

  The Good Article Reviewer's Medal of Merit
Your recognition for 15 GA reviews at the last June-July GAN Review Round. Regards. — ΛΧΣ21 04:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
Glad I could help =) Best, Jonatalk to me 12:20, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Missing My Baby

Sorry. I'm preoccupied with non-wiki matters and doing next to no reviewing or commenting for the forseeable future. I wish you the best, though. Finetooth (talk) 15:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

That's fine =) Thanks. Best, Jonatalk to me 17:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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Peer review

Hi. Just letting you know I'm starting a Peer Review at Wikipedia:Peer review/I Could Fall in Love/archive1. I'm pretty busy in real life, so it may take awhile. --Noleander (talk) 18:42, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

It looks like User:Gareth Griffith-Jones has started to make some significant changes to the article: they put a "under construction" tag at the top. Why don't you contact that editor and see how to best proceed: wait for them to finish? have them do the peer review? Let me know what you decide. --Noleander (talk) 18:45, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Well since you have said that you are busy in RL would it be okay to perform the review after he has finish copy-editing the article? I think it's going to take him another 2-3 days before completion. Best, Jonatalk to me 19:27, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Missing My Baby (3)

Hi Jona. Sorry I didn't manage to do enough to get acceptance of the prose. I've told THR what I think of his conduct, but there's not much more I can do than that. I do, unfortunately, agree with some of his comments about original research. Just one example: when you say she stays positive, that's an interpretation. I agree with the interpretation, but the words don't specifically say it. I can give other examples if you want.

Some subjects don't have enough secondary sources about them to populate an FA. That's certainly true for some of my favourite subjects. (For example, I'm fascinated by centipedes, but there probably wouldn't be enough to make an FA of any centipede species.) Do you think there's really enough out there to make an FA of this song? My view is that you've done a great job to make a GA of it.

Sorry I couldn't achieve more. Take care. Simon --Stfg (talk) 14:32, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

That's fine, no matter what s/he says you did a great job =) I just removed that instance and hope you can remove whatever you believe borders WP:OR. I don't believe in the "articles with only subjects which are covered by more than 40 sources" bs, this hurts Wikipedia in general, if its something that a user enjoys and they tell the user their article will never become FA (which is the goal set in mind) that makes the user feel like their subject is not 'good enough' for Wikipedia; loosing a valuable user and yet they still complain about why there is a decline in users on Wikipedia. I have added everything from sources on google.news archives and the liner notes from two albums. If s/he wants to complain about the lack of sources then that's on the user and not myself, furthermore, if its 'lacking sources' then what sources did s/he find that I have yet included in the article? As of now, the article cannot be expanded its at its fullest potential. Best, Jonatalk to me 01:19, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi Jona. Sorry about the delay. I wasn't sure there was anything more I could say. The only worry about OR is in the "Lyrical interpretation" section, where already the title raises a concern ... whose interpretation? I couldn't edit the section because both its sources are inaccessible to me, although of course it's easy to find copies of the lyrics. Does the sheet music state that it's in verse–bridge–chorus (or verse–prechorus–chorus) form? I already toned it down a little where I thought the article was getting a bit too excited  , and much of what remains is clearly justified by the lyrics, but maybe you need to avoid such things as "she desperately wants to express her feelings to him". I think there you're trying to express the passion of the song, but it feels a bit overdone for an encyclopedia article.
Here's one way to tackle it, maybe: First, don't have a sub-section, but just add two paragraphs to the main "Composition" section. The first of these could contain a description of the song's structure, such as about the verse–bridge–chorus and the drums etc lead-in, which isn't really about the lyrics anyway. Always assuming the citations support it, of course. The second could give a much more basic account of what the lyrics are about, something like this:
In the song, Selena sings to her absent lover about how much she misses him, saying that he is "always on [her] mind" and that she feels alone when he is not with her. Three times she repeats "I often think of the happy times we spent together / And I just can't wait to tell you I love you". In the chorus, repeated four times, she sings of wanting to hold him tight and feel his heartbeat.
Or something like that. Good luck. --Stfg (talk) 13:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
If you see here on a FA song article, that's where that section's heading came from so that's not a problem. I added your example to the article (hope that's okay with you) and will be adding the quotes parameter to all sources for verification. Thanks again for copy-editing the article and hope you have a great week ahead. Best, Jonatalk to me 17:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
"Interpretation" isn't necessarily wrong, it's just that it raises the question. The question may have a fine answer, of course :) Good idea to add quotes for those sources. Have a good week yourself! --Stfg (talk) 18:20, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
I have now added quotations for all sources (except for the music sheet and the liner notes as they are packed away for my upcoming moving trip, though will promise to add those asap). Thanks for that and best, Jonatalk to me 19:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
I think those may unfortunately be too much, and there may even be a copyright problem. Can you reduce them to those that are essential to support factual statements? I don't think gushing by critics (if you'll forgive me) needs quoting, and some of the rest could be a lot shorter. Best, S. --Stfg (talk) 22:17, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Alright I trimmed all quotations per WP:Plagiarism and will add the rest sometime this or next week. Best, Jonatalk to me 00:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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I Could Fall in Love with You

I think this article has the most potential of all the articles you've worked to become FA. I am also working on a song article to become Featured Article (I Need to Know by Marc Anthony). Maybe a little competition to see which of us can get a Latin song article to become FA? Of course you have a huge head start over me! XD Erick (talk) 22:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Awww thanks, but its thanks to the editor who is currently copy-editing the article. The prose is just outstanding! Anywho, "Missing My Baby" is actually at FAC already lolz but at its rate one user does not believe it will become a FA because its not a "long article". If its not promoted then I will work on I Could Fall in Love =) Best, Jonatalk to me 22:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Wow! I feel flattered, and pleased. All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome =) BTW I left some more comments on the talk page. Best, Jonatalk to me 23:03, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes, thanks, but I had already read them before posting here. Shall see to them tomorrow ... it is well past midnight here, and I am off to my bed. Good night, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Oh okay =) Well goodnight and sleep well bud. Best, Jonatalk to me 23:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Just been back to Chart performance to make more changes, including one date (m d y) you missed that one. Haa ha!
Wondered why there is no inclusion of the UK. Was it not released as a single here too?
Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Postscript: Found another date (in the Background)! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
I don't think it was released in the UK no source indicates that it was ever released there maybe as a radio single? But again no source. Thanks for finding those! I will check out the article later so see how you're doing. Best, Jonatalk to me 22:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)i
Thanks ... it appears strange to have nothing in the article about the song in relation to her at this side of the water. Sincerely -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC

I looked at the charts for the article, but Tokio Hot 100 cannot be used because it falls under WP:BADCHARTS since it's a single network. I also added the year-end chart for Latin pop. Erick (talk) 07:53, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

  • @ Erick (talk) Are you able to throw any light on my comment immediately above?
Sincerely -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
I looked at both the official UK charts and the UK archive charts and it appears Selena has never charted in the UK. Erick (talk) 21:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
That was very kind of you – I appreciate your taking the trouble. With kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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Drama Queen GA Review

I would like to thank you for taking your time on GA reviewing Drama Queen. I appreciate it greatly. I have addressed all the issues (or most of them) Thanks! DivaKnockouts (talk) 03:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome, I left more comments. Best, Jonatalk to me 17:17, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Murder of Selena

Thanks for the review =) Best, Jonatalk to me 19:24, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
My pleasure. Good luck with FAC and all the best, Miniapolis (talk) 02:25, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks  . I have decided to leave your additions of parentheses on the article and allow FAC reviewers to tell me if they are okay or not (but I'll give you a link to the page once its nominated)  . Best, Jonatalk to me 02:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Vandalism

Thanks No worries--you're looking out for me. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:57, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome =) Next time I'll just look at the history before reverting  . Best, Jonatalk to me 13:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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List of Selena songs

Greetings! I found your c/e request on GOCE's list and edited the article (I didn't visit this page until afterward, and hadn't realized another member of GOCE had previously edited the article). So, you have another round of copyediting. Hopefully, two editors are better than one in this case and the result pleases you! Take care, Craig — Preceding unsigned comment added by cwsamson (talkcontribs)
Thanks for copy-editing! However, per WP:LEAD the article's lead section should only be a maximum of four (4) paragraphs. Can you clean that up please? Best, Jonatalk to me 21:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Done. I combined the various paragraphs into three, which seemed fairly logical and visually balanced them nicely. Let me know if you find anything amiss or if there's anything else I can do. Cheers! --Craig Samson (talk) 15:06, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of No Quiero Saber

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RE:A barnstar for you!

Thanks for the barnstar! :) --Khanassassin 15:47, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Thanks again for copy-editing the article bud. Best, Jonatalk to me 15:49, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

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Costumbres

If you need help with that song article, I can help out as I'm familiar with Juan Gabriel and Rocio Durcal. Erick (talk) 03:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Whatever happened to "Buenos Amigos"? I don't mind working with you on that one, just when you are not busy :D Best, Jonatalk to me 04:43, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, well I already tried looking for information that would very valuable, but as the old is very old and not as well-known as her other songs, it's quite hard. :( I replied on the talk page for Tu Solo Tu. In case you didn't see it, I basically said that it's okay to just focus on Selena's version because only her version was released as a single and ranked on a music chart. For Costumbres, I thought since you don't know much about other Latin singers, I could provide background information on the talk page. Erick (talk) 04:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
So would it be best to just merge what we got into the main space and nominate it together for a DYK? I doubt the article is too short for a GA nomination, to say the least. Yea I saw it, but I was a bit upset about something on Wikipedia and didn't want to reply and plus I won't go back to that article until I get some lists featured :D Best, Jonatalk to me 05:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Also it's not that I don't know them, I know a lot about Latin singers (like if it is played on the radio I can distinguish it) just lack the information about them =D Best, Jonatalk to me 05:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, erm, forgive me, haha. For some reason, I like looking for old/ancient information for songs and I don't know why. XD Well I guess I can post information about them for now on the talk page and when the time comes, you'll already have the information. You know, I finally started on working articles related to Cristian Castro. You probably already saw Viva el Príncipe as a GAN, I just finished up Nunca Voy a Olvidarte which is waiting for a copy-edit, and now I'm testing out "No Podrás" to see if it works out. Erick (talk) 05:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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I apologize for the late reply. My main focus is on college right now, so I may not reply as quickly as I would like. I would be glad to take a glimpse at the article. I'll probably start making feedback tomorrow. :) —DAP388 (talk) 04:01, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for replying and that's fine. Best, Jonatalk to me 15:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

RE: Missing My Baby FAC

I'm sorry for not replying to you earlier. I've been busy with college and was sick earlier this week. I don't know when I'll be able to look but I think Thursday is the earliest I can do it. Erick (talk) 18:58, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

It's fine and I hope you are feeling better =) Best, Jonatalk to me 15:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Jona. I'm pretty much done. There's still the outstanding issue of the El Porvenir quote, and I've needed to ask a question about song names inside quotations on a MOS-related talk page, but I'll keep it watchlisted anyway until it makes GA, in case anything comes up. Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 19:30, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I have replied, also one more thing why did you remove this link? Best, Jonatalk to me 21:42, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
As a duplicate link, per WP:OVERLINK. It's linked at its first occurrence, at the start of the Release section. Best, --Stfg (talk) 21:58, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Oh I didn't see that lolz. Well I would like to thank you for everything you have done and am really appreciative that you took on this article. Best, Jonatalk to me 22:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome, and thanks for saying that. Commercial music isn't really my thing, but I like working with you -- you collaborate and you're very prompt at answering questions. Till the next time, cheers! --Stfg (talk) 22:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Welcome bud  , awww thanks I try   and happy Halloween  . Your's truly, Jonatalk to me 16:41, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi my friend, thank you so much for the barnstar and message at my talk page, I'm glad the article was promoted at last - well done. :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 07:09, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks and you deserved it  . Happy Halloween, Jonatalk to me 21:53, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

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Enamorada de Ti (album)

Sorry, I was waiting to see if the issues I raised were going to be addressed before passing or failing the article. So far, only the dead link has been addressed. CüRlyTüRkeyTalkContribs 00:30, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

  Doing... Jonatalk to me 00:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I thouhgt I'd passed it already. CüRlyTüRkeyTalkContribs 22:00, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

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I think it wouldn't be right to support something you did, I don't think I was allowed to !vote knowing that the article was requested by me which wouldn't be neutral. Good luck, Jonatalk to me 23:33, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
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I'm still kinda loss here lolz but I mean if anything you did/going to do is in good faith so no worries. Best, Jonatalk to me 15:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2013 starting soon

Hi there; you're receiving this message because you have previously shown interest in the WikiCup. This is just to remind you that the 2013 WikiCup will be starting on 1 January, and that signups will remain open throughout January. Old and new Wikipedians and WikiCup participants are warmly invited to take part in this year's competition. (Though, as a note to the more experienced participants, there have been a few small rules changes in the last few months.) If you have already signed up, let this be a reminder; you will receive a message with your submissions' page soon. Please direct any questions to the WikiCup talk page. Thanks! J Milburn 19:17, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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Greetings Jona!

Post script→‎I am now a 'Reviewer'.

I'm glad to hear that you are reviewer congrats! Also merry late-christmas to you too :D. Best, Jonatalk to me 15:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

ΛΧΣ21 05:50, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry late-christmas to you as well :D. Best, Jonatalk to me 15:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Latin music

 
Hello, AJona1992. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latin music.
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Thanks for your kind works   hope the new year brings lots more goodies to the project. Best, Jonatalk to me 15:39, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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May your Christmas sparkle with moments of love, laughter and goodwill,

May the year ahead be full of contentment and joy,

May the good times and treasures of the present become the golden memories of tomorrow,

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Thanks bud! Happy new year to you too and warm wishes, Jonatalk to me 15:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy new year!

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May 2013 bring lots of happiness and perhaps a change for the better here on Wikipedia.
I'm anticipating another Selena FA written by you! —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 03:41, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks bud! happy new year to you as well and warm wishes, Jonatalk to me 15:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 January newsletter

 

Signups are now closed; we have our final 127 contestants for this year's competition. 64 contestants will make it to the next round at the end of February, but we're already seeing strong scoring compared to previous years.   Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) currently leads, with 358 points. At this stage in 2012, the leader (  Grapple X (submissions)) had 342 points, while in 2011, the leader had 228 points. We also have a large number of scorers when compared with this stage in previous years.   12george1 (submissions) was the first competitor to score this year, as he was last year, with a detailed good article review. Some other firsts:

Featured articles, portals and topics, as well as good topics, are yet to feature in the competition.

This year, the bonus points system has been reworked, with bonus points on offer for old articles prepared for did you know, and "multiplier" points reworked to become more linear. For details, please see Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. There have been some teething problems as the bot has worked its way around the new system, but issues should mostly be ironed out- please report any problems to the WikiCup talk page. Here are some participants worthy of note with regards to the bonus points:

  •   Ed! (submissions) was the first to score bonus points, with Portland-class cruiser, a good article.
  •   Hawkeye7 (submissions) has the highest overall bonus points, as well as the highest scoring article, thanks to his work on Enrico Fermi, now a good article. The biography of such a significant figure to the history of science warrants nearly five times the normal score.
  •   HueSatLum (submissions) claimed bonus points for René Vautier and Nicolas de Fer, articles that did not exist on the English Wikipedia at the start of the year; a first for the WikiCup. The articles were eligible for bonus points because of fact they were both covered on a number of other Wikipedias.

Also, a quick mention of   The C of E (submissions), who may well have already written the oddest article of the WikiCup this year: did you know that the Fucking mayor objected to Fucking Hell on the grounds that there was no Fucking brewery? The gauntlet has been thrown down; can anyone beat it?

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A discussion you may be interested in

Hello there. As someone who has promoted a discography to featured list status, you may be interested in this discussion at WikiProject Discographies.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 03:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Please participate ...

... here. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:09, 28 February 2013 (UTC)