User:Bakasuprman/Archive11

Re: Caste and Hinduism/Assessment

Hi Bakaman, Thanks for inviting my feedback on these two areas. Unfortunately, my editing time is limited these days - I haven't even been to the Hinduism article for several days. I've seen so much ridiculous junk on caste here at WP, I wish I could jump in - at some point maybe I will. I've been trying to focus on bringing the Badrinath and Badrinath temple articles up to snuff, since that's a special love of mine, but that's all I can do right now. Good luck. ॐ Priyanath 00:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the information. I have already put it up. Regards. - P.K.Niyogi 13:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Other Help

Please refer the Chapter-XII on Manipur in the A History of Assam (1905) by Sir Edward Gait as this is only documented history/source of information on mediaval Manipur that is easily available which I know. If there other documented works please do inform me. Also, do you have any information about influence of Srimanta Sankardeva on Jai Singh during his stay Assam for his inclination towards Bhakti movement and Vaishnavism?--Dkonwar 15:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

No I don't have free JSTOR access - even if I did, it would be useless becoz that version must be available to all if you make it a reference. Rama's arrow 16:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Appreciation

I award this barnstar to Bakasuprman for his contributions in fixing many mis-informed edits. --Bhadani 17:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! Please continue the good work to protect the integrity of the Project and assist in building the Dream Project of Jimbo Wales and his team. --Bhadani 17:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

And, I am sure that we all must remember that we are the real wikipedians who are member of the most resilient virtual community of human history. It is just the beginning and we have to cover a long distance to realize the dream of Jimbo and his team. Yes, we are also the members of his team as volunteers to build the sum total of human knowledge! --Bhadani 17:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the support. [1][2] My Han Chinese friends did quite a lot of editing while I was away and those they exchanged barnstars with even thanked CRculver for his actions. [3] Guess it kind of goes with the territory. Freedom skies 23:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Img Help

With the obligatory IANAL,

1) This picture was not provided by Biographical Directory of the United States Congress. {{PD-USGov-Congress-Bio}} is incorrect.

2) I thought {{PD-USGov}} would work. This is not a work of a federal government. It was pulled from Minnesota Senate. And that is a state government.

3) Fairuse license will not work since he is a living person.

Hope that helps. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 00:48, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess I was not clear, As per point number 2 above, {{PD-USGov}} is incorrect too. Basically that image is replaceable. It needs to be deleted. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 01:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? You want me to find a image? Fairuse images need not be stored until free-use is uploaded. They can be deleted within 7 days. Someone will be able to find a free-use image for the article. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 01:12, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I delete the image for you. The recent changes in fairuse policy are a pain, but I understood where Jimbo is going with this. This is the only way we can get more people to upload free-content to Commons. -- Ganeshk (talk) 01:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Did you know

On 23 November, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ching-Thang Khomba, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 09:03, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Batuo

Thank you for the citation on Batuo.

Faure is a third-party academic source and the source actually says what the citation says it says, which may well be a first for Freedom skies.

I still take exception to the use of the word "patriarch" because of the potential scope for confusion, but since Faure uses the word I shall leave it alone.

Please note Freedom skies' improper citation of Broughton; Huiguang appears nowhere in Broughton.

The current edit makes it possible that Wikipedia readers will be misled that Batuo taught Sengchou and Huiguang martial arts, which was precisely Freedom skies' intent and why he continues to remove my sourced material. I will continue to add this material to the article.

As for horizontal lines, I find it a more effective way of distinguishing messages that indentations.
JFD 06:49, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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If some users get their way I might not be on wiki much longer.

Really?
I can think of one or two of your friends who are more deserving of that fate (one in particular).
In fact, of all your friends, you're by far the most reasonable.
JFD 03:22, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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Done.
I also let CiteCop know (he was the one who told me to lay off you) but he's been inactive for a while so I don't know if he'll respond.
JFD 05:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Wow, thanks Bakaman, I appreciate your kindness. My first Barnstar ;-) GourangaUK 09:49, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

BhaiSaab

In regards to BhaiSaab's behaviour, I have proposed a remedy at the workshop. Please check it out. - Aksi_great (talk) 13:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Hindu Barnstar

Hindu Barnstar
Project Hinduism given by Dangerous-Boy (talk · contribs)

For all your hard work.--D-Boy 18:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Namaste Bakamanji, thank you for the Barnstar how beautiful this is. Congrats your self on earning yours. I will continue to defend the Hinduism images from vandalism. Cheers!__Seadog ^♪ 23:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry that this has happened to you, in my opinion you are a great editor. I hope every goes all right with you. If you need any help or assistence please contact me. Good luck.__Seadog ^♪ 23:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry if I sound childish but I have no experiance when it comes to the Aberration commitee. I would be glad to support you it's just that I don't know the details of it all. Please let me know.__Seadog ^♪ 23:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Razzak

Hi. I will see what I can sum up on this traveller. The info in my sources is in fragments too.Dineshkannambadi 00:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Vidya Balan

Namaste Bakasuprman. Thanks for inviting me to the discussion on the Vidya Balan talk page. I gave my comments, provided some references, and suggested a compromise - one that should be agreeable to both parties. Also, I noticed that you requested that the Tamil script be added to the article. I'm not a native speaker of Tamil, but I can try to transliterate her name the best I can if you still want a Tamil rendition of her name. As for the arbitration comment you would like me to make, I'd be glad to. Let me know if you would like me to make a statement on you there. Thanks again, Anupam^Talk 05:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Dadoji Konddeo

Hi Bakaman, you must have checked out this new article I created. I have expanded it quite a bit. I will add some more info to it afterwards. However, I want to list it for DYK nominations. But I cannot decide on the "interesting fact" from this one. I guess you can find an interesting fact from the article. Actually there are many but cant decide which is the best one. Can you help me on this ? Thanks, --NRS | ^T/_M\^B 06:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

And yeah, congrats for the Hindu barnstar. You certainly deserve it. --NRS | ^T/_M\^B 06:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? was updated. On 25 November, 2006, a fact from the article Crab Creek, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

-- Good catch! GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 07:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Appreciate the DYK nomination. This article was just a background piece for a somewhat larger article under development, so it's particularly pleasant to have it recognized by itself. Thanks - Williamborg (Bill) 00:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

mandir infobox

Can you added a caption section to describe image in the infobox?--D-Boy 22:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Pl.

Baka, an anonymous editor mischievously put non-sense links in the article "Hinduism". It was removed and removal strongly supported by many. These links in a subversive way placed on talk pg. I removed those links. Abecedare is somehow replacing those links which in no way can be considered relevant but mischievous. He does not cite Wikipedia policy but replaces those links. Does the Wikipedia policy support mischievous inclusions? swadhyayee 01:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Crab Creek

You wrote:

congrats on this great new article. very well written with breadth and interest. keep up all the good work. Cdcdoc 15:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Appreciate. Skål - Williamborg (Bill) 05:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Baka.

Baka, you have got "Yash". Hope you understand "Yash". Thanks for the help. swadhyayee 05:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Use_of_vernacular_scripts_in_India_bio_articles

interesting discussion --D-Boy 07:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

DYK!

Did you know? was updated. On 26 November, 2006, a fact from the article Standard Oil of Kentucky, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Aksi_great (talk) 14:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Did you know? was updated. On November 26, 2006, a fact from the article Satveer Chaudhary, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks again Baka. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mannaraprayil_Cor-Episcopa

Actually he was a highly controversial priest in Kerala.In Kerala there is a big dispute between two major Christian Sabhas. Hundreds of news reports are available about him in Malayalam Newspapers(In front page too). News reports in English Newspapers too.Please check this. www.hindu.com www.hindu.com But alas! the article is deleted.I think this type of deletions will question the credibility of Wikipedia's notability test.Some Kerala wikies are not interested in creating articles. They are deletionists. If they had good reading habits in Malayalam things would have been ended with a different climax.  Nileena joseph ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 17:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Vinod Valloppillil

Look at this person. He is a Keralite. But he is not at all notable. No news report in Malayalam or In English is available to prove his notability. What made him notable..? I have nominated him For AFD.That is the only reason. Recently I had supported a Kerala Artist S. Jithesh.Because of that reason he suddenly became non-notable. Actually his name appears in everydays newspaper.See the news report from today's (26th nov)- www.hindu.com and www.hindu.com (27th nov) about this cartoonist. THis is a front page article of today's malayalam Newspapers.It was a state government's programme. Things are not going fair in Kerala wikipedia. Somebody is trying to sideline me and humiliate me.Here often cocus and groupism wins. I dont understand their logic...! Truth must be told fearlessly. That is my principle of life. Nileena joseph ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 18:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

new

How do you know all this stuff on Indonesian hindus?--D-Boy 18:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Urdu#trying_.22too_hard.22

Kind of amusing.--D-Boy 02:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian caste system

you might consider joining.--D-Boy 03:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism revert

Bakaman: Can you please let me know why my edit was incorrect ? I don't have any objection to mentioning the 'Upanishads' in the introduction - I just think it is incorrect to mention the vedas and then say that " other scriptures include Upanishads". Thanks. Abecedare 03:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Please see my question on my Talk page. I have also asked LordSuryaofShropshire to chime in. :-) Thanks. Abecedare 03:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Invite

Be my guest, have the very first look at Foreign influence on Chinese martial arts. An article which covers India, Greece, egypt and Mesopotamia. Free from any NPOV violation whatsoever. Freedom skies (send a message to Freedom skies) 03:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Need some help

Hi Bakaman, do you have any skill at making banners? — Lost^(talk) 11:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

For your faith and support at WP:ANI ­ ॐ Kris (☎ talk | contribs) 14:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Ayyavazhi

Some members are hell-bent on including Ayyavazhi in the Dharmic religions article. I have myself deleted it a couple of times, but this group props it up again. I don't think its even a religion, but just a small cult. Do you think Ayyavazhi deserves mention as a Dharmic religion ? Please let me know your views. Indian Air Force (IAF)

Did you know?

Did you know? was updated. On 27 November, 2006, a fact from the article Walter Adams (economist), which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 21:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Baka.

Thanks Baka. I noticed your adding catagory to my user page bit late. swadhyayee 04:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Category:Indus Valley sites

This pak as been untagging indus valley with the indian tag on it. Could use some help on this. Szhaider (talk · contribs) seems to be behind it. He takes the tag off harappa civilization and other indic historic sites as well.--D-Boy 21:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Use_of_vernacular_scripts_in_India_bio_articles_-_2

Voting on the scripts.--D-Boy 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Indoensian Hindu figures

Hi there. I am not a native Indonesian speaker but I do have a good understanding of it and could help translate that passage for you. I am just so busy. can you give me a few days? Let me know if you MUST have it earlier, and I can find someone else for you. But, I'd like the challenge! --Merbabu 03:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

>_<!

Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics#Proposal--D-Boy 04:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: Suman

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but all Wikipedia articles must meet our criteria for inclusion (see What Wikipedia is not and Deletion policy). Since it does not seem to me that Suman meets these criteria, I have started a discussion about whether this article should be kept or deleted.

Your opinion on whether this article meets the inclusion criteria is welcome. Please contribute to the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suman. Don't forget to add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of each of your comments to sign them.

Discussions such as these usually last five days. In the meantime, you are free to edit the content of the article. Please do not remove the "articles for deletion" template (the box at the top). When the discussion has concluded, an administrator will consider all comments and decide whether or not to delete the article.Edison 07:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Dont even remember creating the article.Baka man 05:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for your support on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_India page. One key thing from my POV is that the Aryan migration theory was built no linguistic basis, so it has to be dismantelled on linguistic basis. The authors and Bryant has provided enough details to argue on linguistic ground. Is there any area where OIT has not disqulified liguistic "evidence". If it in not clear, we can work on the wording to make it clear. There is lot of clean-up that needs to be done regarding "mainstream response". I was going to do that next. The reason I have not pushed much for Astronomy, is that the first evedence can be easliy discounted as compass have accuracy range and unless we can demonstrate that very accurate reading was possible, the date range is from 7000 BC to 800 BC for the observation. Mahabharta dating can be used as that is harder for mainstream to challenge. But so far I have been trying to get the more critical elements in first and then clean up the junk and next will be more additions. The reason I am trying to stay away from religious elements is that I don't want them to call it propoganda. thanks. sbhushan

Panchakshari Hiremath

Since no one objected, after closing the AfD, I have moved Dr.Panchakshari Hiremath to Panchakshari Hiremath. Is someone who assists in the invasion of Hyderabad really an Indian freedom fighter ? If so, will you be making sure that the articles on anyone who took part in the invasion of Kashmir contains the phrase Pakistani freedom fighter ? Curiously, Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Having said that, I think I'll have a look through the Kashmiri stuff to make sure we don't have "freedom fighters" there. I don't know if you're a cricketing man, but I read in the paper today that Hanumant Singh had died. I'm sure this would be a good time to find material to add to the article. I'll add what I can from the English papers, but there must have been loads of coverage in India. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Removing project tags

Baka, I noticed you removing History of Pakistan tags. Please do not remove other project tags. It just results in tit-for-tat tag removals. Let us not get into edit-wars. Let us keep NPOV and verifiability checks to the article pages. Talk-page tags don't mean any harm. BTW, your new signature is looking good. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 23:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

We don't have to decide whether it makes sense or not. From the start, I have been telling that project tags are not meant to mark territory. They are meant to attract new members and improve the respective article. If the article gets improved by Pakistani editors or Indian editors, it does not matter, in the end it's good anyway. We just need to make sure the article stays within WP:CITE, WP:NOR, WP:RS and WP:NPOV policies. These need not be applied to talk pages. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 23:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

DYKs

Hi,

You don't need to ask me before adding DYKs. If you think something is good enough, add it. Also, if something has already appeared on the Main Page and is India-related, it is definitely worth the Portal page. Just remember to archive the older ones correctly. I just came back from a sort-of WikiBreak, and haven't given full attention to the Portal page as I used to. Hopefully in a couple of days, I will be back for dedicated maintenance of the page. Regards, — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject India Newsletter: Volume I, Issue 3 - December 2006

Project News Name change of cities in Karnataka: A straw poll was conducted on the proposal to change the name of cities in Karnataka, per the Nov 1, 2006 decision by the Karnataka government to rename them from the current anglicised forms. The result of the poll was to change the names. As controversial as the decision may be in the real world, the article Bangalore in Wikipedia still reflects the old name. You may be interested in knowing why. Dig the archives. New Project Noticeboard (Shortcut:WP:INB): WikiProject India now sports a new colourful centralised noticeboard. An effort to make the noticeboard current and dynamic was mooted a few days back, and Ganeshk came up with the new format. The new noticeboard will strive to be the one-stop shop for all project related information. The shortcut is WP:INB. Members List: The old members list is being phased out to give way for the new members list. New members are requested to add their names to the new members list. As the newsletter grows, further issues of the Project Newsletter will be delivered to those enlisted in the new list. So dash down now, to check if ur name is in there. What's New? Prayer flag in the Kurgiakh valley in Zanskar Featured Content: Three articles (Chalukya Dynasty (nom), History of Tamil Nadu (nom) and Bengali language (nom)), one list (List of Indian ODI cricketers) and one picture (Prayer flag in the Kurgiakh valley in Zanskar contributed by Moumine (pictured)) were featured from our WikiProject recently. Congratulations to all contributors who helped to develop the above content to represent the best of Wikipedia! Need some help? Are you stuck at a point where admin help is needed? There are 22 Indian Administrators in Wikipedia at the last count. If you need some help with anything related to WikiProject India, they are just a couple of clicks away! Complete To Do List India-related tasks | Indian noticeboard v • • d • h • w Requests: People: Bapudeva Sastri, Marimallappa, Ravichandran, Articles: Barak Missile Deal Scandal, Asura (band), Asian Variety Show, Cultural liberalism in India, Energy policy of India, India Export Tax, India Import Tax, Marimallappa High School, More... NPOV: Rajneesh, Khalistan, Ranjit Lal Jetley Hedgewar, Puttanna Kanagal, Indira Gandhi, More... Wikify: Railway stations, Mahavidwan R. Raghava Iyengar, More... Cleanup: caste system, Rampur, Tav-Prasad Savaiye, Shipping Corporation of India, More... Merge: Amber Fort,More... Expand: Ashoka Kumar Thakur vs. Union of India (Supreme Court Case) 14th Lok Sabha, Adithada, Ali Sardar Jafri, Bandhani work, But Marma Atti, Chikan (embroidery), China Town, Kolkata, Essar Shipping, Fair use, G. N. Naidu, Hinduism in India, Imperial Bank, Inbuan Wrestling, Integral humanism, Iran-India relations, Islam in India, Sunil Mittal More... Stubs: Indian Copyright Act, Anand Math, Andhra Bank, A R Antule, Arjuna award, Army of India, Bahujan Samaj Party, Bombay Dyeing, More... Translate: Marathi Wikipedia articles, Hindi Wikipedia articles, Sanskrit Wikipedia articles, Tamil Wikipedia articles Kannada Wikipedia articles Collaborate: Notice board, Collaboration of the Week, Category Adoptions To do, Version 1.0 assesment, India Portal, Life in India, India quick links Indian Wikipedians, Indian administrators More... Requested images: Major crops, Convert Image:Standard of the President of India.gif to SVG, Free image of Aarti Chhabria (See: Image:Aarti Chhabria.jpg and its talk page) Other requests: Add maps from WikiProject India Maps to articles of Indian regions found at List of regions in India v • • d • h • w

Note from Editor's Desk Welcome to the December 2006 edition of our newsletter. Time flies past like matter into the black hole. It is interesting to notice that we are already into the last month for the year of 2006. 2006 saw discussions and development beyond realisation. In the world of Wikipedia where quality counts than quantity, we have come a long way. We've made better than 'nothing', to say the least, and even that is an achievement. I take this opportunity to thank everyone including those who have dotted the i's and crossed the t's. As before, we'd like to stress, this is your newsletter, and we want you to be part of it as well. Provide us with news tips. It can be anything related to the project, from discussions to calls for help, and other interesting stuff within our community. If you have received or given any barnstars recently, do let us know. Sponsored content for recruitments within your WikiProject sub-groups are also welcome. We'll be very happy to include them here. Before we sign off, Advance New Year Wishes, everyone. This edition special Assessment Department (Shortcut: WP:IN1): Are you one of those gnomes?? Or do you want to take some time off some brain-frying active editing on Wikipedia?? Then Department of Assessment within the WikiProject India will be your forte. The department consists of a group of wikipedians who work on rating the India related articles to check if they are worthy enough to be included in the CD (or print) version of Wikipedia. The rating process gains more significance as we try to sort out which articles and which topics need more attention to balance the India related systemic bias within wikipedia. As a thumb rule, anyone can rate any article based on the related criteria, within the Stub/Start/B/A levels. However, ratings for Good Article Status and Featured Article status go through the nomination processes. How to?: The "how to" part of assessment is very simple. Just head on to the talk page of any India related page and you'll find the {{WP India}} template. Simply classify the article based on the content and the criteria mentioned here. You can find the detailed instructions here. If you think it may qualify for GA/FA status, first consider submitting the article for peer review. Signed... Edited by Chez and distributed by Lostintherush

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Hindu

Hi, Baka I was wondering whether you or other editors can replace the image (i.e., Khajuraho at http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Hindu#Religion_for_the_common_Hindu with a non-sexual image? It gives the wrong impression about the article, religion for the common Hindu.

Thanks, Raj2004 14:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Nabakrishna Deb

I don't think that it would be proper to mark him as part of Bengali Renaissance. By all acounts, it started much later. You can think over it. Regards. -- P.K.Niyogi 03:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)