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I should be and thank you. You should be as well! I've just realised I was editing here 24 hours ago and haven't slept since.

Sweet dreams.

Good morning (?) -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 09:54, Oct 26, 2003 (UTC)

Comment for you at User talk:Cimon avaro

:-)

I did wonder. Thanks for the note. 168... 21:43, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

oulalalalalala, ce rk m'a l'air sauvagement moins que peu fréquentable ;D Alvaro 04:43, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)

What did I do this time? :-(

Props for NPOV'ing a certain user's page. Gave me a chuckle in light of the calamity. Ed Cormany 18:29, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Anthere, what's going on the ecology page? The Talk page is the right place to put the French for translation, the page is a mess right now, you should translation bit by bit from the Talk page. Please look at my comments on Talk:Ecology. Thanks. --Lexor 07:54, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help! - Hephaestos 15:15, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Non, aucun probleme niveau feux. Tout c'est bein retabli. Merci. Christopher Mahan 23:22, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Merci pour votre message sur [à?] ma page à meatball...vous avez une problème tres grande avec "chattering"... Et je ne pense pas que ma médiation aiderai la situation, mais je continuerai. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:39, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)

OK, I've made a start -- I'll keep working over the next few days, if what I've done seems OK... BCorr ¤ Брайен

that would be great. I go see. We just had a Papotages attack :-(

Well, I did it with the help of my friend Google translation and some fixing -- please let me know what you think, ma amie! BCorr ¤ Брайен 00:28, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

P.S. J'ai pensé que vous aviez interdit Papotages...?

I left you some answers to your earlier questions about irc, &c. BCorr ¤ Брайен

Please don't feel too bad -- I believe that sometimes people force us to go against some of our principles in order to preserve something greater, or of more value, or that affects many other people. Life is largely about compromises, and we can only do what we can do. Also, you must be very tired now, no? A demain, BCorr ¤ Брайен 02:38, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I know I shouldn't get angry over it. I was being silly really. Thanks for checking out the copyright status of that article. Angela 14:28, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Pardon pour l'incrustation, words of sadness

Poor you! Why is he expecting you to deal with it all? Can't you just tell him to ask for someone else's assistance? He should probably ask Jimbo anyway -that's what other people have done when they wanted to be removed completely. Angela 20:39, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Yes I often have that feeling! It might be better to e-mail him rather than say on his talk page. I expect he'd see that sooner. Angela 01:29, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I was reading (or I should say trying to read -- my French is not that good) his comments and your responses -- Peut-être c'est quelque chose que tu pouves trouver l'aide à Village Pump? Also, is this user another victim of Chatterings? -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 05:17, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Been doing too much of the anti-vandalism stuff, etc. It's been, like, my mission in life. :-) Time to step back from it... Evercat 03:03, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. I have never deleted anything out of your user space. RickK 03:40, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Lots of people say "Don't delete this page", especially Michael. Why should any consideration be given to such things? If you have a particular reason why you don't want it deleted, you might:

sign your request so that someone knows that a trusted user wants it save
explain why you want it not deleted.

RickK 05:34, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I apparently didn't make myself clear. You said:

I do not really appreciate the parallel you draw between I and Mickael

What I meant above, when I said "trusted user", was that, if I had known that it was you making the request, I would probably have given more concern as to whether or not to delete it. But you didn't put your name on it. I called you a trusted user, I was not trying to compare you to Michael. RickK 05:46, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Ok, I misunderstood then. Apology.

Done m:Consumerium. Good idea to make a meta page since future of consumerium is very connected to future MediaWiki Juxo 18:25, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

it is selfpromotion [...] the guy died in 2001

Heh. Thanks for the laugh.

Could perhaps your comments in the comment box reflect what you are really doing on a page ? ant Can you explain what this is in reference to? RickK 02:27, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hi, Anth, thanks very much for your vote of support. BTW I noticed your response to Cimon. I wonder if you recognize that "I fart in your general direction" is a quote from a highly arch sketch of Monty Python's. See e.g. [1]

168... 18:12, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I absolutely do not. I considered that sentence plain rudeness. I do not think non-english speakers should be expected to interpret rudeness as jokes. I will then reconsider things with another eye. I thank you for telling me 168 :-)

Little things *can* indeed start a war :-)

Insults that should not be insults

Hi, Anth, thanks very much for your vote of support. BTW I noticed your response to Cimon. I wonder if you recognize that "I fart in your general direction" is a quote from a highly arch sketch of Monty Python's. See e.g. [2]

168... 18:12, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I absolutely do not. I considered that sentence plain rudeness. I do not think non-english speakers should be expected to interpret rudeness as jokes. I will then reconsider things with another eye. I thank you for telling me 168 :-)

Little things *can* indeed start a war :-)

"I do not think non-english speakers should be expected to interpret rudeness as jokes." Do you mean to suggest that speakers who do speak english should be expected to interpret rudeness as jokes? Since rudeness is bound to be interpreted as rudeness most of the time, by definition, you seem to be suggesting that in the english speaking world rudeness is AOK, which likewise seems contrary to the definition of the word. If the speakers of every other language but english knew what constitutes rudeness, while english speakers had no concept of it, then I could understand your point. But I assume you'd agree with me that, at least to some extent, each culture decides for itself what constitutes rudeness. That said, I'll let someone else from my culture decide whether to take that comment of yours as rudeness. I find it worthy of note, but actually didn't take offense. 168... 22:35, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I'm sorry to have made you feel obliged to write a long apology at my talk page. It's certainly accepted. In answer to your question "AOK" is a stronger version of one sense of "OK." The "A" adds a nuance sort of like the one you get by adding "just" to "fine" in "just fine", or which you get, in response to someone's query of whether something bothers you, answering "not a bit" instead of answering simply "no". As I used "AOK," I was trying suggest an attitude of blitheness in the person who would hold the view I was describing ("blithe" approx = nonchalant). I wouldn't use the word myself except ironically. To me it suggests a sort of cheery naivete or else a somewhat unnatural and self-conscious optimism. It's also just a word that some people use and not others, although I suspect more people used it in the past. (I associate it with cowboys, but I don't really know what it stands for or where it comes from. ("All OK"? From NASA jargon?) I'm fascinated by cultural differences too, as well as language, even if I really speak only one. 168... 23:19, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Cimon avaro's "fart" comment is actually a popular culture reference to a similar line in the movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I believe it was intended to be gentle and humorous, rather than offensive. I imagine someone might quote Asterix & Obelix in a similar fashion; without knowing the source, such a quote may appear to be quite rude. Cheers, Cyan 21:25, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

ok

Bonsoir, Anthère. I've been back, but rather under the weather -- quelque malaise comme la grippe, mais je ne sais exactement, et je n'avais travailler cette semaine. It was surprising to see that a French cookbook would even have a section on cuisine de Nouvelle Angleterre, parce que la cuisine de la région c'est le meme à vielle Angleterre -- trop "cooked" et sans saveur. And is carrot cake really from the States? -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 03:30, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hi Anthère. I appreciate your desire to maintain authorship records, but I think those articles gaucho really do need to be split. Would it be OK if I split them again, but said where the text was coming from in the edit summary? DJ Clayworth 17:57, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Your Eyes

Wow, did you see the new comment below your eyes-image on Eye?!! Unbeleavable, how good the contributor made the point ;-) Fantasy 12:13, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I saw what happened on VfD and you probably saw the discusson with Angela on my talk page. Was politeness which prompted me to post the note of thanks even though the article had already been deleted. I trust you and the other French Wikipedia contributors to know more about French culture than I do and to help sort out what is of sufficient significance to have an entry in the English Wikipedia. Of course, that just means that at some time, I'll disagree with you, since this is a Wiki...:) Jamesday 21:44, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Article de la semaine

Je suis désolé que tu ayes été malade. J'espère que vous êtes meilleur bientôt. Je suis presque sante [?]. En outre, même avec mon mauvais Français, je puis voir que est un article très bon. Je ne sais pas pourquoi nous n'avons pas un "article de la semaine" ici? C'est une idée excellent! -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 22:38, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)

en:Ecology

Bonjour -- I realized that I haven't looked at Ecology for a while and that you've done quite a bit of work on it. Are there any particular sections thta I could help with or new text to be translated and/or edited? -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 14:27, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I hope it does stay. I love it. Do you think there is any chance it would be allowed on en? I don't think people should be allowed to move questionable pages to the user space just to avoid the normal processes of deletion and if he claims to have left anyway, why keep it? I think it is just asking for trouble. It isn't really part of his user space. He just put it there so stop it getting deleted. Angela . 07:30, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Fun is forbidden. Evercat 14:04, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

It's very nice, actually. But Christmas is still 15 days away... Evercat 14:31, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Bah, humbug. It's just a big commercialised capitalist fraud. Why, back when I were a lad, we were grateful to get an orange for Christmas. Well, no, I made that up, but still... :-) Evercat 14:45, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I just didn't expected it to be so cheery and red! :-D C'est très fantastique! I love it. I think Wikipedia logos should change once a month to reflect festivals around the globe. --Menchi (Talk)â 18:15, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Sorry, for the delay response. I have been away, and will be not here more often. -sv

The French Academy is not influential in Canada. It certainly has no official jurisdiction. Québec has its Office de la langue française, which is a lot more political in its influence, and has at time been referred to as the language police. Elle est souvent plus français que les Français. Some anglicisms that are acceptable in France are considered bad French in Québec. At the federal level there is support for bilingualism, and a lot of money is spent trying to get anglophones to speak French badly. I'm sorry but I haven't been following the French POV debates. ☮ Eclecticology 05:28, 2003 Dec 11 (UTC)

Hi Anthere, That's a monumental work: Ecology. I started working on the translation you asked me about, and someone else beat me to it. Since then I've been busy with moving our home, but plan to get back to look more extensively at the article soon. Thanks for all the effort.

It was so desperatly dead for more than a year, I "had" to do something for it :-). Thanks for your thanks

It should be fine if you leave a note on the talk page about who the original author is. Cheers, Cyan 21:22, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Bonjour -- J'ai créé -- sentez-vous libre d'offrir des corrections à mon français, svp. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:58, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Et maintenant j'ai aussi créé ... -- BCorr ¤ Брайен

"Copyright unsure"? That rather takes the shine off the present, but thanks anyway... :) Martin 17:53, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I didn't understand this: "The environment is at the same time the product and the condition of this activity and thus of the survival of the species".

You can't quit fr. You are queen of the French Wikipedia! I'm sure they couldn't cope without you. Why have you quit? Angela .

I completely know what you mean. Did you see what I did with my user page earlier? [3]. Angela . 22:20, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Bonsoir, Anthère. A couple of days ago I was looking at the WikiFR-l mailing list, because I was curious about Tim Starling being involved in dealing with Chatterings. I understand enough French to see that you have had to deal with PP's endless vandalism, and at the same time people complaining that you are not nice enough (et c'est injuste et faux, dans mon expérience!). And it seems ironic for me personally, as I am enjoying translating articles for fr: and following the corrections that others make -- it helps my French a lot). And I completely understand. Sometimes it seems impossible to go back to the days of innocence -- whether at Wikipedia or in real life. I often wish that when I go to meetings or conferences, I could just sit in the audience and listen -- but usually I am organizing the meeting, or have a role in the conference. When I don't, it's very nice to relax. And I don't have advice for you: quitter ou ne quitter pas? Je ne sais pas ce qui est la décision "correcte". But I trust completely that you will make the correct decision. Dans l'esprit de la paix, BCorr ¤ Брайен 22:35, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Je suis toujours à ton service à aider! And always feel free to email me if you need a sounding board (conseil retentissant) -- or just some support. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен

Sorry ant, I forgot about you being that user too. I just thought the link to the ban page might offer more explanation for those who hadn't followed the story. I didn't mean it to be offensive to you, and I am sorry you were upset by this. Remember though, Jimbo was blocking 142, not you. You just happened to be accidentally affected by this because he didn't realise it was you. No one ever thought you should be banned. Anyway, I shan't use the example again. With apologies, Angela .

_________ On the ecology page...response to your comment Do you like that ? http://en2.wiki.x.io/wiki/Ecology#Usage_of_the_term

Yes, of course. I was pleasantly surprised.

Relating to September 11 Pic that came from the Chinese Wikipedia - From Mav's talk page

"== About 2wtccrash.JPG ==

"Did you either take this photo or did you get permission to use it without attribution? --mav 05:44, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)"

The photo came from the Chinese Wikipedia. It is displayed on the Chinese September 11 page. WhisperToMe 23:29, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

this does not justify we have permission to use it, or that it is gfdl. What does the chinese description page indicates on that topic ? PomPom 00:16, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)"

http://zh.wiki.x.io/wiki/Image:Wtc1 is the desc page of the picture on the Chinese Wikipedia. FormulaX posted the picture in the Chinese version. Since he has an English page, I am going to ask him where he got the pic from. WhisperToMe 03:31, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Jiang said that the Chinese pic originated from this pic on the French wiki: http://fr.wiki.x.io/wiki/Image:Wtc1 WhisperToMe 04:37, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

This is *so* typical :-) Sigh. I looked : the french editor uploaded many images from en: as well, and never provided any description for his images. There is very high chance the image originated from en:, and was deleted for copyright infringment. I will list it for deletion of fr:. I highly suggest that it is deleted from en: and zh: as well. All I can say Whisper is "it is not because an image was uploaded on another wikipedia that it is clean." Please, do provide description images in all cases (even when it comes from another wikipedia). ant

I deleted the picture on the EN version due to Copyvio WhisperToMe 20:25, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Request

I just noticed that we don't have an article about mimicry yet. Would this be something in your field of interest?—Eloquence

I have a photo of a viceroy butterfly (also monarchs) in my files... Pollinator 04:15, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

that would be good :-)

Ant not here? You're not leaving are you? Worried 22:09, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Just a holiday, we hope...Pollinator 22:22, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

of course, not. See you in january :-)

Bonne journée! Брайен

Lien perso

User:Anthere/extinction

Miam

My supper

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Far less healthy Archivist 00:11, Jan 9, 2004 (UTC)

Bernard

Très chère ant, combien de fois ai-je pleuré en lisant une page de wikipédia ? Peut-être plus que dans ma vie toute entière et encore ce matin, même si les lignes que j'avais déposées ne t'étaient pas directement destinées, je n'ai pas été vraiment surpris par les italiques. Je n'avais pas osé venir te souhaiter une bonne année, peut-être bien que finalement moi qui pensais avoir été attentif à tout le monde sur wikipédia, ne suis pas aussi respectueux que je le pensais.

Je vais un peu mieux, mais je ne pensais pas que cela puisse être aussi dur, comment est-ce possible de s'attacher à ce point, à wikipédia et à celles et ceux qui le font, c'est idiot sûrement, mais comme tu le dis si justement wikipédia est un organisme vivant, qu'il est fragile comme tout organisme vivant, tu le sais si bien, je ne sais pas pourquoi je te le dis !

Mais, mes blessures n'excusent pas celles que j'ai pu infliger aux autres, certainement pas, je me suis excusé, j'aurais dû en faire davantage, que ceux à qui je ne les ai pas adressées, s'ils lisent ces quelques lignes, le soient ici.

Je n'avais pas regardé une seule page de wikipédia avant vendredi dernier, deux mois après que j'ai consulté une dernière fois la mailing-list et venir remercier, Loo (pour ce que je lui avais demandé, imbécilement) et toi, sans même regarder ce que vous aviez fait pour moi ; j'avais ressenti ta colère et ai été encore plus malheureux de l'avoir engendrée, que ce soit toi et Loo qui ai dû supporter ma mauvaise humeur pour quelques mots d'autres m'a encore plus affligé mais je crois que cela était bien fait pour moi. J'avais compris ta colère mais j'avais tout de même un petit doute.

J'avais déjà fait le black-out absolu, même plus relevé mon courrier avec les adresses wikipédia, enlevé tous les favoris de mes navigateurs,cookies etc. Je n'osais même plus googliser, complètement irrationnel, j'ai même résilié mon forfait internet et donc, chez moi, je n'aurais plus de connexion décente à partir de tout à l'heure.

Et puis, vendredi sur Google, je suis par hasard tombé sur un référencement d'une page que j'avais créée et qui est bien classée toutes langues et puis sur une autre à laquelle j'ai participé, un peu, (moins que toi) et me suis dit qu'elles devaient être utiles à quelques uns. J'ai eu le courage de googliser mon pseudo et pour ne pas revenir les mains vides, j'ai donc écrit un petit article et puis je l'ai déposé et donné quelques retouches à un autre, mais avant de le faire,j'avais tout de même regardé, tu sais quoi et comment, mais j'ai beaucoup hésité et si tu n'avais pas été là je crois que je n'aurais rien déposé.
Il y a beaucoup de choses qui m'ont attristé et rapidement, je crois avoir assez regardé les RC pendant mes trois mois wikipédiens, ce n'est pas bien difficile de se faire une idée.

J'ai apprécié tes actions à leurs justes valeurs et ta page sur les relations sociales entre wikipédiens, [4] combien se rendent compte comme cela est important, étonnant que personne n'ai collaboré à une page pareille, je mesure la joie que cela aurait été pour moi de modestement t'y aider... étonnant, ai-je écrit ? Je te l'ai déjà dit, quand je vois la déprime que j'ai dû surpasser, prends bien garde à toi et aux tiens.

Tu as dû comprendre quelle souffrance pour moi de ne pas me sentir à la hauteur, comment ne pas ressentir personnellement l'échec que peut être le bannissement de P., qui mesure vraiment, ce qu'est une telle décision, son ampleur et ses conséquences, pendant ces deux mois j'ai eu le temps d'y penser souvent. Lorsque j'ai "censuré" son paragraphe sur le procès de Saint-Etienne, qui sait , sinon toi, ce que j'ai ressenti en appuyant sur le bouton "sauvegarder", P. même pas, je suis sûr que sinon il n'aurait pas écrit la phrase dans le résumé qui me mettait au pied du mur, même cela je le lui ai pardonné et il le sait ; et j'ai, alors, réfléchi plusieurs heures supplémentaires à la décision que j'allais prendre, et pourtant j'avais eu douze jours pour m'y préparer, puisque douze jours auparavant j'avais "censuré" le même passage ; j'ai fait selon ma conscience, je n'ai vraiment pas l'esprit apaisé, qu'aurais-je dû faire de plus, de moins, ce matin là et les jours qui ont suivi ? Vraiment, je ne sais pas, je ne sais pas. Ma fragilité, tu sais, je ne sais pas non plus.

Je te l'ai déjà dit, je me sens "has been", je vais m'éloigner d'internet, il y a beaucoup de choses que je ne saisis plus, et sur wikipédia il y a des reflets de cela bien sûr, je vais te redire merci parce que j'ai passé trois mois formidables, grâce à toi, et à beaucoup, je ne vais citer personne, chacun se reconnaitra (je pense à deux absents particulièrement) et puis si en passant, il reste toujours un peu de l'esprit de ce que j'ai connu de wikipédia, et bien je déposerai bien quelques mots, mais un minimum de cet esprit est une condition sine-qua-non..

A lire tes mots de ce matin, je suis désolé, vraiment sincèrement, d'avoir pu te blesser à ce point ; je pense pourtant que tu n'aurais pas dû, je ne pensais pas même que tu puisse tellement l'être ; tu sais je ne me suis jamais senti important à ce point pour toi, car si c'est pour wikipédia , tu aurais sans doute encore moins te sentir blessée sinon cela t'honore à un point que je ne sais comment qualifier ; sans doute n'ai-je pas été assez attentif aux mots que tu as pu écrire et surtout à ceux qui m'étaient directement destinés, je suis désolé, vraiment désolé. Tu m'as reproché une fois mon égoïsme, j'avais trouvé cela injuste, mais tu avais raison, comment peut-on se conduire aussi mal quelquefois sur ce média, un tourment de plus, comme j'ai la mémoire longue, tu sais, c'est un défaut, je n'oublierais jamais.

Il y a quatre vers sur ta page perso que tu as mis il n'y a pas longtemps à voir l'historique, qui sont très beaux, que ceux à qui, je pense, ils sont destinés les trouvent beaux aussi.

Je crois que tu ressentiras ce que je ressens à cet instant, je te souhaite une bonne année, une bonne santé, à toi et aux tiens.

Ant, merci, merci infiniment et je te l'ai déjà dit, il y a longtemps, tu peux me demander ce que tu veux, nul ne me dérange ou me gène, alors toi, tu penses !

Bien amicalement.
Bernard.

Cher Bernard.

I do not forget you. But I right now have very little computer access, and the d.... site is so slow most of the time I connect, that I will answer you later. Amicalement. Ant

Thank you very much ant, but I do not need really answer, you spent already so much of time for me, rather continue for marvellous Angela ., others and for fr.wikipedia of course, en. and meta.. etc. Eslios 20:04, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

No, I have something to tell you (and to answer Angel as well), but 1)my husband is working a lot at home on the computer these days, and 2)someone will be sleeping for the next two nights next to the computer (so I won't have access to the net much). Hence...I can't answer yet. My best. Ant

J'ai essayé, Bernard, de mettre une partie de mes pensées sur ma page utilisateur. Certaines peuvent te concerner.

en novembre et décembre, je me suis laissée déborder. C'était juste trop de choses à la fois. Des choses peu importantes, ou plus importantes, mais juste trop de combats à la fois; Je ne pouvais plus t'écouter. J'ai mis ces vers en pensant à toi, et Looxix et Alvaro, et d'autres aussi :-) Mais je me sens mieux à présent. J'essaye de porter mes pieds à d'autres endroits, pour ne pas me perdre inutilement. Merci d'avoir éditer l'article :-) Savoir qu'aun moins une personne m'a lue me fait plaisir. J'ai souvent l'impression d'écrire dans le vide. J'essaye juste de mieux comprendre moi-même. J'ai essayé aussi à m:incivility. Si cela peut aider d'autres, tant mieux :-)

Je te souhaite le meilleur Bernard. J'ai apprécié nos discussions. Passes nous voir de temps à autre. ant

Angel

Hi ant. Thanks for the message. :) I haven't been on irc since my computer died last Wednesday, but hopefully I will get it fixed today and be back. It's weird being away. Wikipedia's a very different place when you don't know what's happening on irc. I think I needed a break from it though and to spend some time doing things other than Wikipedia. Angela . 06:05, Jan 13, 2004 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed your message to Stephen at mb where you said "more time spent analysing, less editing time". Do you ever find that helps? I find myself doing that sometimes but then I wonder whether I should stop wasting my time doing it. :) The thing you said about "not impacting enough what he thinks right" is so true as well. I've been thinking lately that I could spend all day here and still not have as much impact on certain things as I would like. There's just too much to do. sigh. Angela . 08:30, Jan 13, 2004 (UTC)

Mediation Committee

Hi. Are you having trouble with your browser? I noticed several edits by you, where you have removed what appeared to be valid content from talkpages, in a somewhat bizarre manner. I am speaking specifically in reference to the Mediation and arbitration related pages. -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 02:14, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

Hi, not troubles that I know of. I am trying to separate arbitration and mediation stuff, and to reorganise a little bit. Normally, nothing is lost (except chit chat comments perhaps ?) and should find its way roughly at the right place; It is good to see you around. I was just reading the articles at meta. We thought with Angel, that if the main draft could stay there, perhaps the pages themselves could be here rather. What are your suggestions ?

I'd be happy to help with giving the mediation committee a little input, everyone seems to be trying to make it more complex than it is. Ironic, some people accused me of coming up with a complex scheme and mine might have been the simplest of them all. However, I have an open mind about mediation. There are a lot of good books on it written for people who have to negotiate. "Getting to Yes" is perhaps one of the most famous of these books. Let me know how I can help and I will be glad to lend some expertise (on an interesting side note I just became an "arbitrator" in New York City Civil Court. I was sworn in yesterday. Here is an interesting brochure about the NYC Civil Court mediation program [5]. You might find it useful. — Alex756 05:55, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Merci, DoublePom! Au commencement, quand la proposition a été faite par Jimbo, je n'ai pas cru que j'ai eu assez d'expérience. Peut-être maintenant je . Est-ce que tu pense-tu être un médiateur, il emploierez beaucoup de mon temps? Je pense que je lui demanderai bientôt... BCorr ¤ Брайен 15:39, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks ant. I am on the mailing list but I can't always be bothered reading it straight away so I hadn't seen that until you pointed it out. Has Jimbo said you are on the committee yet? I hope he does soon - you seem to be doing nearly all the work! Thanks for all your help in moving things along. It's beginning to seem like something real now and not just some abstract idea. Angela . 20:39, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

French headscarf law and mediation

I got your message. Been busy -- looking at the threads, it looks like there are a couple things going on. Your email looks extremely clear and organized, but Ive been away for so long that Im having a hard time placing it in context. Can you get me caught up a little? Btw, take a look at French headscarf law when you can. Merci, 戴&#30505sv 01:42, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I note: "Mediators -- people who are volunteering to get involved in mediating user disputes, but without any actual power to vote for or recommend a ban or any other punitive action" LOL. No wonder I'm on the list. :) Maybe you should take my place as a mediator. I don't think I will be around enough to justify the position. -Sv {;)>

how many sysops exist on en ? They could all justify it somehow :-)

what is the difference with the current way ?

I haven't been following the mailing list lately. I'll browse over the Mediation pages though. Anything in particular I need to do? --Dante Alighieri 10:20, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)