Template talk:LDS sects/Mormon fundamentalist

Unwieldy

This template has gotten so big, I think it has become unwieldy. So I was thinking of breaking the ABU sects into there own sub group. With the exception of the Righteous Branch, all of these sects are either defunt or unknown. The Righteous Branch has "approx. 100 members".

What is would look like is this:

• For ABU sect pages using {{LDS sects/Mormon fundamentalist|ABUsects=yes}} (ABU sects are in the main navbox):

• For non-ABU sect pages using {{LDS sects/Mormon fundamentalist}} (ABU sects are in a sub-navbox):

Additionally by using "|selected=fundamentalist" or "|selected=Apostolic" you can expand the individual sub sections.

The information would still be there on all pages. However the ABU sects would only be show in general if the person hits the "Show" button (on pages that are not ABU sects}}. On ABU sect pages the second Subnavbox would be shown as that page is ABU.

The thing is, with such a signification change, I though it would be prudent to see what other think of it. Before I create a "Document" page, I thought I would ask, what do you all think?--- ARTEST4ECHO^(Talk) 21:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Support. Looks pretty good to me. This isn't exactly my forte, but I'm in favor of anything that breaks up unwieldy templates into smaller, more detailed--and more manageable--sections. Go for it. - Ecjmartin (talk) 00:11, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Support. I also added a comment to the chart so that a person understands the size of that branch of the tree. Also - I would remove the Apostolic Brotherhood Church from the ABU template (template2) - so that it only shows the schisms from that church rather than including it twice in the chart --Trödel 20:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I like what you did very much, however I think it needs a little tweaking

1. I agree that the ABU shouldn't be in the "Mormon fundamentalist sects" twice. However, I do think that the ABU needs to be in the bottom "Apostolic United Brethren schisms" group. We include the "Church of Christ" on all the other templates like this, as it was the first sect, so we should include it. I worked out the coding so that it will do both. The ABU isn't in the box anymore, but dose appear in the group.
2. I think we should change the statement from "collectively about 100 members" to "collectively less than 500 members". Since most of these are "Status:Unknown" we have to give it some leeway in case they are active.

So what do you think of it now?--- ARTEST4ECHO^(Talk) 20:47, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I like it - I agree with the change to less than 500. And I like the idea that in the ABU schisms group the ABC should be included. --Trödel 21:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

How about "collectively fewer than 500 members"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tripleahg (talk • contribs) 01:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Sounds fine. I have implemented the changes. I will work on a more complete "documentation" page next time I get a chance.--- ARTEST4ECHO^(Talk) 22:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

LeBaron group article needed

Whereas many sources mention the LeBaron polygamist group's continuing existence, some doubt whether ersatz "parent" sect, ----- Fulness of Times, is extant.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 21:18, 21 May 2015 (UTC)