Template talk:Infobox ice hockey team season

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Blaixx in topic Is it time to remove some of the clutter?

When the league name is not the same as the article on the league

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The Swedish Elitserien has changed names to Swedish Hockey League. How do one make a link like that in this template, I mean like [[Swedish Hockey League|Elitserien]]? At present, the link goes to the wrong page when it just points to Elitserien, as can be seen e.g. in 2006–07 Frölunda HC season. Bandy boy (talk) 10:45, 16 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Should work now. -DJSasso (talk) 12:51, 16 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

New infobox appearance

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@Parkfly20: Can you explain what was messed up? It all looks fine to me. Alakzi (talk) 23:34, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

I think if both of the prev_season and next_season fields were filled in the template wouldn't close and the rest of the article's content would be merged into it, if that makes sense. If you revert the edit check any of the pages in Category:2013–14 AHL season by team - I first noticed it here - and you'll see what I mean. It might take a few minutes to change back since there was a delay after I reverted User:Frietjes's edit. --Parkfly20 (talk) 23:46, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
Good catch - I've fixed it now. Alakzi (talk) 23:52, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

What was wrong?

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@Djsasso: can you point me towards a page that was broken by the upmerge? I made A LOT of changes and tested the hell out of it. I don't doubt that something was broken. It is 100% possible, if not probable. I merged 3 templates after all. But can you point me towards a page that was actually broken so I can troubleshoot the issue? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:50, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Sorry edit summary isn't the best for detail. it wasn't the changes to this one I was referring to. You changed another hockey one a short time ago that someone else reverted. I have no problem in theory with the upmerge. It just affects hundreds of pages so should always be talked about. I didnt necessarily mean a full tfd but just posting at the relevant wikiproject. -DJSasso (talk) 21:19, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Djsasso: I'm not sure which other hockey one you are refering to... There was a template change that got reverted because of a double redirect issue. Once the double redirect was fixed the change was re-applied. This merge seems like a nobrainer to me. It doesn't affect the end user at all. The template functions exactly the same as before. It just means that now there is one template to maintain instead of 4. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:14, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Sorry was on mobile so couldn't do links well. I believe it was the NHL Team template. I think it lost some english variant functionality if I remember the comment someone made. It was mentioned on the Wikiproject page. If all the functionality and looks is still the same then yeah its a no brainer. -DJSasso (talk) 21:21, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Djsasso: HA!!! I found what you were talking about. Yes. I converted Template:Infobox NHL team from a hardcoded HTML table to use Template:Infobox as a base. In the process accidentally dropped a param that allowed for either "colors" or "colours" to be used. Because of that one little oversight, the entire change was reverted. There are no such issues with this template. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:32, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Copyedit request

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Can someone please copyedit this template, so that "Winners", "Champions", and "Information" is lower-case where it's not first in an expression?

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HandsomeFella (talk) 20:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done Primefac (talk) 22:43, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Edit request

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The MinorLeague parameter was lost in the January merge of Template:NHL Team Season. Please re-add as it is used in many NHL season infoboxes. It used to have a line under Average Attendance for Affiliates. Thank you, Yosemiter (talk) 01:31, 17 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

I have added the proposed change to Template:Infobox ice hockey team season/sandbox. Yosemiter (talk) 19:17, 21 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
Done. -DJSasso (talk) 11:20, 23 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Template-protected edit request on 9 November 2017

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Add "MinorLeague" to the list of approved parameters just below the "includeonly" section. There are about 200 articles with that parameter in Category:Pages using infobox ice hockey team season with unknown parameters even though the parameter works correctly, an error is shown. BLAixx 05:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done — JJMC89(T·C) 06:06, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Template-protected edit request on 6 June 2018

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Parameters number 11 and 13 should be changed from "General Manager" and "Assistant Coach" to "General manager" and "Assistant coach" since that is unnecessary capitalization per MOS:CAPS. This is a known issue with ice hockey media as some websites tend to capitalize these words (including "Head Coach" instead of "head coach" and similar). Parameters number 23 and 24 should swap places ("Penalties in minutes" should be below "Plus/minus") as most websites list the +/- statistic first. – Sabbatino (talk) 08:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

  Done Cabayi (talk) 11:32, 7 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Template-protected edit request on 21 March 2019

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Change "Penalties in minutes" to "Penalty minutes". I know the abbreviation is "PIM" but when written out in words, "penalty minutes" is almost always used. For example, the NHL's website shows Penalty Minutes as the tool tip when hovering over PIM on their statistics pages. BLAIXX 12:33, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Reasonable request, however, while I know that is definitely the case for North American articles/leagues. If people can show that it is not the case in other English hockey areas we may need to reconsider. -DJSasso (talk) 12:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
Could you also change it from "Penalties" to "Penalty" (singular). Thanks, BLAIXX 12:46, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
That was just me being absent minded. Fixed now. -DJSasso (talk) 16:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Template-protected edit request on 2 November 2020

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Change "| label11 = General Manager" to "| label11 = General manager". Change "| label13 = Assistant Coach" to "| label13 = Assistant coach".

Per MOS:JOBTITLES. Also to keep consistent with Template:Infobox NBA season, Template:Infobox MLB yearly, and Template:Infobox NFL team season.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 00:39, 2 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

  DoneJonesey95 (talk) 02:02, 2 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Games played minimums for Plus/minus and GAA

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I think games played minimums for these two stats should be noted in the documentation. I’ve come across a few instances when a goalie who played part of a single game and didn’t allow any goals was listed as the GAA leader (example). For plus/minus, there are instances of non-playoff teams without a single regular skater being above Even and the listed leader being a player who only played a handful of games.

Also, I think “Minor league affiliate(s)” should be changed to “Farm teams”, matching the article section. --98.21.54.186 (talk) 03:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I agree that there should be a GP threshold for both. I think 10% (i.e. 9 games for an 82 game seasons) at a minimum although possibly even higher, especially for plus/minus. BLAIXX 22:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Template-protected edit request on 29 December 2023

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Pleae change calls to template {{two digit year}} to {{two-digit year}} to eliminate an unecessary redirect. Colonies Chris (talk) 11:07, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

  DoneJonesey95 (talk) 14:20, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Colonies Chris (talk) 17:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Is it time to remove some of the clutter?

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There are somewhat frequent complaints that Template:Infobox ice hockey biography is missing information found in the equivalent baseball, basketball, and football infoboxes. The usual response is this WikiProject prefers a smaller and more compact infobox containing only the most essential info. Fair enough (to be clear, my issue with that infobox is aesthetic rather than a lack of content). Yet with the team season infobox, the hockey version has by far the most info included compared to the baseball, basketball, and football equivalents.

The hockey infobox:

  • is the only one with scoring leaders listed; football is the only other one that even lists players in some fashion, but it is for pro bowlers, all-pros, mvps, and rookies of the year, so some seasons will have few or even none while the hockey infobox has seven every year. If this section is not completely scrapped, perhaps the stats that have lost some of their luster in the past decade or so (+/-, penalty minutes) could be removed.
  • is the only one with home and road records listed. Ditto goals scored and goals allowed. Home/road records aren't listed anywhere else in the articles (with few exceptions), but goals scored/allowed are included in the standings templates.
  • is the only one to list minor league affiliates, though I believe most of the pages aren't currently using this parameter. Obviously, baseball is the only comparable with hockey here and I'm guessing they don't have a parameter for it since there are so many of them, whereas hockey teams usually only have two these days. If this is kept, it should be shortened to "Farm teams" and linked to the article.
  • is the only one listing a team captain. Given the importance and visibility of the captaincy in hockey, I won't argue this parameter should be removed. But the alternate captains are a different story, and there was a discussion earlier this year about removing the AltCaptain parameter.
  • currently contains an AssistantCoach parameter I don't think is actually being used, or at least I haven't noticed it. President is also rarely used.

So is it time to remove some of the clutter? - NHL04 (talk) 04:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I feel strongly about removing home and away records, goal differential, PIM, and +/- leaders. These seem the least useful and border on being trivia. President, asst coach and alt captain I don't feel strongly about one way or another. BLAIXX 15:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply