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Appearance

I have yet to see a description of the Yuuzhan Vong. V_V; What do they look like?!
(P.S.: I have not read any EU stuff, so all my knowledge is from the Wiki. I'd do it if I knew what they looked like.) -- 64.254.203.123 07:06, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Replies

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong what they look like

Casualties

One thing that struck me was the frightenly high number of people that died in the war. 360 trillion people. It's so high as to be almost uncomprehensible. -- JesseG 02:38, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, most were civilians. -- JediMaster16 01:31, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

I don't mean to downplay what happened to Alderaan, which was simply evil to kill all those billions of people at once. But it was almost literally a drop in the bucket compared to the number of people killed in the war. -- JesseG 03:28, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Maybe there should be a page for the biggest number of casualties in a sci-fi conflict? -- pomegranate 21:48, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)

I've started a page called Sci-Fi Conflict Casualties for those conflicts that had huge number of casualties. Would anyone know what the final death toll was in the Dominion War in the Star Trek universe? I know 800 million Cardassians died when the Jem Ha'Dar turned against them, but I don't know how many more died besides that. What about the Romulan War of 2161? Or Independance Day? If people could add to that I'd appreciate it. -- JesseG 18:56, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

You have to keep in mind that the number of deaths in this conflict is so large because it is GALAXY wide, i mean, just put your mind around that......an entire GALAXY divied in two.

Don't be Sad, its not real :-)

I would now like to know- Approximately how many Earth-type worlds are estimated to occupy the Star Wars Galaxy?

According to Matthew Stover's "Shatterpoint," there are at least 1.1 million habitable planets in the Republic alone. (The actual passage was something like: "The Republic army has 1.2 million clone troopers, enough to put a lone trooper on every planet in the Republic and have only a handful of thousands remaining.") Add to that the several thousand (approx) worlds in the CIS during the Clone Wars, plus worlds not involved either way, and I think an estimate of 1.2-1.5 million planets is absolutely reasonable. BinaryTed 19:25, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, since Cloning appears to have been well-established in the SW Galaxy, will many have been cloned back to life?

--Shultz 06:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC) (Please reply to my User Talk page, as well as here. Thank you.)

When you clone someone it only clones their body, not their memories or thoughts. So, a clone of, say, Han Solo, would just look like him but not actually be Han Solo. The Emperor was only able to transfer his consciousness to his hosts through use of the dark side.Atinoda 20:29, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Cloning has been established as possible, but neither practical or heavily used. Indeed, the only two major cloning projects that have ever been mentioned would be the clong army of the Republic and Thrawn's clone army (who was, actually, able to make it practical). While there has been the odd cloning project (eg, Hand of Thrawn: Thrawn clone), it happens so rarely that it would be false to assume that people will just be cloned back to life. Forgottenlord 19:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Isn't there something called "flash learning" to imprint the original's brain patterns on a clone? Something like that was mentioned in the Hand of Thrawn duology. Custodes 07:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

It says trillion in the overseas books as well, meaning that the number is 365,000,000,000,000,000,000 (365*10^18), not 365,000,000,000,000 (365*10^12). Given that the galactic population is "quadrillions" according to the ROTS novel, and the Confederate army numbered in the "quintillions" the loss of life from the Yuuzhan Vong War is negligible on the whole. Comments about the frequency of Base Delta Zero operations and orbital bombardment and bio and chemical warfare make it clear the Clone Wars were far more devestating. --Lowkey13

Linked articles

Should more attention be paid to articles in Wikipedia linked to the Yuuzhan Vong? Apparently not much editing has been directed at articles linked to the Yuuzhan Vong. A.L.

Just today, I did a fair amount of work on the weapons article to fix grammar and verb tense. I've been casually looking at the other articles as time allows. Having not read that era of the fiction myself, I can't do much to it as far as information.BinaryTed 19:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

NJO deaths

I personally don't think very highly of the New Jedi Order series, particularily because many of the main characters are killed. I think that the movies are TONS better. -- Scorpionman 01:37, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The whole point of their deaths was to make it clear that the Yuuzhan Vong were a serious threat and not a three or four book threat.--Kross 04:42, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

What's the relevance of this comment? Forgottenlord 19:22, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Canonicity

Exactly how canonical is the New Jedi Order series considered? -- Scorpionman 15:15, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Its C-Level, the second highest rung on the perverbial ladder. -- Kross 04:26, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

It's not cannon at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.250.4.69 (talk) 15:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Yuuzhan Vong physical appearance

Despite their lethality, based on pictures, does anyone else think the Yuuzhan Vong somewhat resemble the Insane Clown Posse? Maybe they should've sent Eminem in to stop them-then less people would've died and Slim Shady's wife and mom would have less black eyes.

Humor aside, does anyone have any pictures of the Yuuzhan Vong?Atinoda 20:45, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

There are images on Lucas arts via http://starwars.com/databank/character/nomanor/eu.html which has an image of Nom Anor who is a Yuuzhan-Vong, i've disabled the link because it's an External Link but if you place it on the browser it'll show the page. →Yun-Yuuzhan→ 18:24, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Zerg

The Yuuzhan Vong sound to me a lot like the zerg in starcraft. How many years after the battle of endor did the alliance defeat the Yuuzhan Vong? And are there any books telling of enemies of the republic after the Yuuzhan Vong? -- Agent js03 16:44, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Official timeline puts NJO 25-30 years ABY, so 21-26 years after Endor. They have also announced and begun releasing books that occur after NJO, but I haven't read them so I can't say what enemies there are. As for the Zerg, I suppose their origins could be a bit closer to the Zerg, certainly their love for battle and preference for organics is definately a parallel, but societally, they are a lot different. When they lived on the original Yuuzhan'Tar, it might be a bit closer, but we don't quite know the societal structure from then and how much it has changed. Forgottenlord 19:26, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

ROTS

"They also make an appearance in Return of the Sith." I don't think so. In fact, i severley doubt so. Plus, it's called Revenge of the Sith. So i'm deleting this line. But if anyone can find proof, i'll put it back up. --Quadraxis 16:17, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Chop up this article!

This page has gotten WAY too long. Maybe we could start a Yuuzhan Vong technology page and move a chunk of stuff over there.--StAkAr Karnak 13:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Relatedly, the History section covers about one paragraph of their history and then describes in detail the war. I think we should leave a brief overview of the war, and move the details to a second-level Yuuzhan Vong war or Yuuzhan Vong invasion article and link to that from the History section. What's the word? Cheers. !mAtt™ 18:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

God I'm dumb. !mAtt™ 18:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I was actually thinking that as I read the history section, so regardless of relevance, I don't think its a bad idea. Forgottenlord 19:28, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

No no, it's a perfectly excellent idea; I'm dumb because it had already been done. !mAtt™ 20:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I HATE the Yuuzhan Vong!!!

Whenever I hear the Yuuzhan Vong mentioned, I have to recoil in disgust. Is it just me, or does anyone else realize that the Yuuzhan Vong turn Star Wars into some weird version of Alien??? I find it horrible to think that all the writers of the expanded universe could think of was some weird lizard-like species of extra-galactic foe. This is sacreligious to star wars! Star wars is about inventive creatures, not stupid weird alien monsters!!! I am ASHAMED OF THE EXPANDED UNIVERSE!!! --138.130.223.236 11:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Regardless of your personal feelings towards the Yuuzhan Vong, Wikipedia is not the place to express it. A more appropriate place would be a blog, if you have one. Firestorm 20:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Um... yeah, your comment, besides being totally off topic, was factually wrong (insofar as anything from a fictional universe can be considered facts...). Yuuzhan Vong are not lizard-like, they're mostly like humans with slight changes and bodily tatoos and implants. For whatever reason you might hate the NJO I'd suggest you either keep it to yourself or find some other outlet, perhaps writing talk segment about Vong controversies... --StarkRG 08:51, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

• I completely agree. They are so out-of-place it isn't even funny...69.242.43.60 00:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Regardless or not wikipedia isn't a forum, and besides the Yuuzhan Vong was nearly mentioned in certain books and games before they appeared, in the future please redirect your concern to Lucas Arts forum. →Yun-Yuuzhan→ 18:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that subconsciously the Yuuzhan Vong is a protest by long term fans who are fed up with Lucas persisting in selling an infantilised Star Wars to grown men. They are one of the few redeeming characters that have given the EU a depth and gravitas that has eluded Lucas for the last 20 years. Has a side not do the Yuuzhan Vong come from an alternate/parallel universe and not a galaxy? Needless to say if the Vong were ever to reach celluloid we would need David Lynch to do it justice!! --Ickesshadow (talk) 16:13, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Opening paragraph

I thought the Ssi-Ruuk were also of extra-galactic origins? Horus Kol 12:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

• from the first sentance in the Ssi-Ruuk article: "The Ssi-Ruuk are a saurian race that invaded from the 'Unknown Regions' of the galaxy" --StarkRG 08:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

What about the Nagai? Or the Tof? Custodes

What about being labelled as simply "sentient"? Sentience only qualifies a creature's/being's ability to discernably sense things, not any indication of human-level cognisance. T.J. Fuller, Jr. (talk) 22:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Cannot be felt with the force?

The article's second paragraph ends with "later in the New Jedi Order Series it is explained why they cannot be felt by most Jedi". Yet, nowhere in the article does it expound on this fact. Should we really leave everyone hanging on the question of "why" after stating that there is infact an answer?

Real Life Inspiration?

The CD that came with the hardcover edition of The Unifying Force contained a lot of behind the scenes information that is most likely appropriate for this article. Also I'm pretty sure there's an intentional Mayan/Mesoamerican influence. This might be original research, but the Vong veneration of Twins, the autosacrifice, the sacrifice of slaves taken in combat, the pointed teeth all apply to the Maya.

Um... what happened?

What happened to the article? Was it completely replaced for a reason, or something else? The article now seems to be in the completely wrong area, but I don't want to do a massive revert without knowing what exactly happened, in case the article is, by some chance, correct. R.H._Jesus_Freak40 02:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Somebody appears to have deleted most of hte article and replaced it with "this never happened". Can someone fix it...I am not sure if there is a way to just revert it. --BCapp 12:45, 16 August 2007 (GMT)

pronunciation in IPA

How is the name Yuuzhan Vong pronounced?

Question about a sentence about the Intendent Class

I found this sentence that seems questionable.

"The Intendant Caste (unlike the priest and warrior castes) do not have a battle cry, but as observed by Nom Anor, if they did it would probably be along the lines of: "Have you triple checked your orders with your superiors?""

Could someone tell me which source this come from or is this original research or an attempt at a joke.

Azn Clayjar 20:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Its in the book when Nom Anor is first called into Shimra's court...where the first mention of the intendant cast also occurrs...If you want I can figure out which book it was BCapp 12:33, 16 August 2007 (GMT)

It's in destiny's way. When the Supreme Overlord first gets to Coruscant / Yuuzhan'tar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.136.61 (talk) 22:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

What happened too them?

I couldn't see in the article what happened too them? I hope they were exterminated- they are the opposite of starwars. If we wanted crappy bio- idiots, we would read something else. Starwars is about huge starships and blowing shit up! but DOES anyone know what happned too them? And If Mr Lucas is reading this, PLEASE would he make a new movie or write some new books which have a different order of events after the collapse of the empire? I mean sorry, but we are supposed to belive that after all that work by Luke, Yoda, Leia etc, the New Rwpublic lasts only twenty years before before being destroyed? And Coruscant- which remained undamaged all the way from 5000 ABY, through the whole proper saga, was destroyed? The thing that an empire with millions of starships and a death star could not defend- was destroyed by a couple of HIPPIES! Sorry, Mr lucas, but you've let us fans down. Now, if you just goe over to your Indy Jones franchise, and make him have a posh UK accent, live in a country house and face the challange of "The staircase of Doom" and "Raiders of the cookie jar", you can do the same to him!

George Lucas never wrote these books, they're not his creation. - Kacen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.91.186 (talk) 21:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, it looks like Mr Lucas has read your comment and green lighted new material that will be 'actual' (lol) Star Wars. Thank Goodness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.250.4.69 (talk) 15:11, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Sources

Would someone like to provide some sources for this article please? I don't currently see any evidence of notability, however interesting this material may be to fans. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:41, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I have boldly pruned out a huge chunk of unsourced material, probably original research, certainly plot summary. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 20:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Expansion

There's some information on how the Yuuzhang Vong were developed here, citing a round-robin interview in The Unifying Force. I don't know what it actually says, but it sounds like it might be useful. At a surface look, I can't find much in-depth reception on the Vong, but then I'm not familiar with them and have no real clue on where to look. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 08:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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Okay, I really appreciate the ammount of effort that goes into these entries. However, the article that was posted here a few days ago and replaced by this one was much better! It had many more details about the Yuuzhan Vong and included more history and dates and even broke the eras down in the history layout. I'm really not sure why it was replaced with the one that's there currently. Does anyone know? Thanks! ~~Jedichrono

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