Talk:Yehoshua Cohen

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Onceinawhile in topic POV tag: Tone and terminology

Some questions

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I am dubious about two claims that are not given explicit sources: 1. Cohen was a "leader" of Lehi. He was not one of the three leaders, nor the leader of the Jerusalem section. 2. Cohen "founded" Sde Boker kibbutz. I thought he was a security guard or something like that. Zerotalk 10:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Let's check.--Jim Fitzgerald (talk) 11:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
Kati Marton says Cohen was "one of the founders" of Sde Boker, which means he was one of the original residents. I changed it like that. I also changed "leader" to "leading member" since the sources clearly support it. Zerotalk 01:03, 31 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Kati Marton book

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Some stuff here is from the 1994 edition of Kati Marton's book "A Death In Jerusalem". For example, the name "Avraham Steinberg" comes from page 210. However, the 1995 edition of the book does not have that name at all, but a different name "Gingi Zinger" appears in its place with no explanation. "Gingi" (ginger) is a nickname for someone with red hair. I was told by a very knowledgeable source in 1999 that the 4th assassin's nickname was "Gingi" but his identity was still secret. Anyone know more? Zerotalk 14:26, 24 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

To answer my own question, the name "Avraham Steinberg" does not occur in the 1994 edition of Kati Marton's book either. The text was added by a user later blocked for being a sock of a banned user. (I can guess who.) So the source does not support the text at the moment. The name "Avraham Steinberg" occurs in a 2006 newspaper article, which I am investigating. Zerotalk 09:16, 25 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

POV tag: Tone and terminology

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The article currently includes the following:

  • "was a leading member"
  • "Lehi, a Zionist militant group"
  • "who fired the fatal shots"
  • "'a legend' within Lehi"
  • "Many Israelis opposed these proposals... a British and Arab puppet, and thus a serious threat to the emerging State of Israel"

The article is describing a member of a terrorist organisation, who was personally responsible for the murders of a British cabinet member and a Swedish UN diplomat, who were both working towards a peaceful resolution to the conflict. Cohen's actions ensured this conflict would continue for another 75 years+; having a significantly greater impact than the actions of Yigal Amir.

Yet our article currently reads like a hagiography of a martyr. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:20, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply