Talk:World Enough and Time

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I added some other usages - it's the title of a Robert Penn Warren novel, and of a fairly recent biography of Marvell that was reviewed in the New York Times. john k (talk) 18:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't understand why attributing the line to Marvell is a problem. It's a very famous poem published over 300 years ago. Obviously Murray's book is referring to it. Warren, Moffat, Zicree & Reaves, and Goss were too, because it's a famous phrase that was coined by Marvell. It's like saying we don't know whether something called "To Be or Not to Be" is a reference to Shakespeare. john k (talk) 14:28, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Why do I need a source? The poem is very famous and was published in 1681. Are you suggesting that these other writers independently came up with the phrase "World Enough and Time"? john k (talk) 02:28, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

That being said, Here is The Guardian saying the Doctor Who episode title is taken from the Marvell poem. And here is a source saying that Warren's title derives from the poem. Obviously the biography of Marvell is taking its title from the poem. So that leaves us with the two pieces of fancruft (the New Voyages and Big Finish stories), which of course there are almost no reliable sources on of any sort. john k (talk) 02:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh, but the Diary of a River Song story with this title apparently has, as a plot point, the Doctor and River quoting Marvell at each other, so, um, I think that counts. john k (talk) 02:35, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

The Star Trek episode actually has first few lines from the poem recited in it. Miyagawa (talk) 13:12, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

So can we agree that every title is derived from Marvell, then, please? john k (talk) 20:29, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Looks like it. -- Alex^TW 02:01, 30 June 2017 (UTC)