Talk:Winnipeg general strike
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Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was Move to Winnipeg General Strike. As for the "1919" part, it doesn't seem mandatory per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions (events) and Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(numbers_and_dates)#Articles_on_events—actually, it seems to be discouraged if there's a common name. Duja► 11:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
1919 Winnipeg general strike → Winnipeg General Strike — This event is always uppercased in credible publications, which treat it as a proper noun the same way other significant conflicts, such as the Cold War are treated as proper nouns. —bobanny 07:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Survey
edit- Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
*'''Support'''
or*'''Oppose'''
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. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
- Support. I have always seen it with caps. I also note that the Canadian Press Stylebook (ISBN 0-920009-32-8) requires that it be capitalized (page 212). BTW, the title does not require "1919", but at the very least the title should not commence with 1919! Skeezix1000 14:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Support. The usual way the strike is referred to in my experience is the Winnipeg General Strike. (I'm originally from Winnipeg, in case that counts in the discussion.) Wanderer57 17:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Support It's an important Canadian event, like the Great Flag Debate. We seem to like our important events capitalized, and the Win Gen Strike was important. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 18:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Support I originally used the "1919" phrasing on the basis that General strike#Notable general strikes listed strikes that way; the proposed move is in line with WP naming policy. The sources do seem to weigh heavily in favour of Capitalizing Every Word, so we should do it that way. <eleland/talkedits> 17:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Support. The capitalization seems the common practice and the 1919 at the start is not necessary given that there has only been one strike. It is also extremely odd-looking. --Slp1 00:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- There seems to be a consensus on capitalizing the title. I agree with Skeezix1000 however that "1919" is unecessary, so I'm leaving this request up because only an administrator can move it to Winnipeg General Strike. I'm guessing it's the result of someone wanting all general strike articles standardized, but methinks that's not a good enough reason for mucking with a well established name. bobanny 18:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- The title should reflect the most commonly used name for the topic, and "Winnipeg General Strike" is the term used for the event. The dab is completely unnecessary. And, frankly, the title struck me as odd because no one refers to it as the "1919 Winnipeg General Strike". Skeezix1000 17:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Add to section "Commemorations in Popular Culture"?
editNote that there used to be popular rock band known as 'One Big Union' that toured around mid-Canada in the late 1980's and early 90's. The band took its name from the strike. The leader and singer of this band, Trevor Hayhurst, eventually changed his surname to "Hurst" and formed 'Econoline Crush'. (89.241.229.243 (talk) 20:12, 9 December 2010 (UTC))
Add to subsection "Violence"?
editThe section on “Violence” can be expanded, especially with the recent article in the Winnipeg Free Press “History Revisited: New Photos of the Winnipeg General Strike Offer Different Perspective on Seminal Event” (September 29, 2011). The article discusses what ignited the violence on Bloody Saturday (the mounted-police or the strikers attacking the streetcar) from the perspective of newly uncovered photographs in the Manitoba Archives. Should this subsection be updated? MXYXYM (talk) 18:20, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Article needs more references
editThere are a number of paragraphs in the article that have no or very few citations. Specifically, in the following sections:
- Cause
- Settlement
- Organization
- Opposition
- Aftermath
- Role of women
- Historiography
Please do not remove the maintenance tag until these issues have been resolved. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 08:14, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Protest
edit.In the section re Bloody Sunday I have changed this
CED (Concise Oxford Dictionary defines protest when used intransitively as make a protest against an action, proposal etc usually followed by “against” “at” “about” etc. It can also be used transitively sometimes followed by “that” and means “affirm” Thus to “protest the faith of Jesus Christ” means to affirm the truth of that faith. “To protest that Darwin’s theory of Evolution is true,” means exactly that the speaker or writer believes the theory to be valid and accurate. Protest can therefore be positive rather than negative and it seems to me to be dangerous to use a sentence like
“He protested abortion” without adding the words “against or “in favour of” after the word protest.
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