Talk:William A. Clark
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editThis page should be renamed as William Andrews Clark, the common name by which he was known, and by which he is called in all biographies. Always the Andrews was included. CrimesOfPatriots (talk) 01:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have any support for that? When I attempted to establish which was more common, the middle initial seemed to be more common. -Rrius (talk) 01:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
- The book by his great-grandson, Andre Baeyens, makes the point that he was always known as "William Andrews," not "William," and Baeyens made the point as well in the first 30 seconds of his lecture at the University of Montana, which is available on video. The msnbc.com report, based on books and family interviews, refers to him as William Andrews Clark. So does the book "The Battle for Butte," as well as the first biography by Mangam ("The Clarks: An American Phenomenon") and the Nevada history ("The First 100"); The New York Times appreciation published on March 8, 1925; the Santa Barbara magazine article from September-October 2009; the Montana Historical Society (http://montanahistoricalsociety.org/education/textbook/Chapter10/historicaldocCh10.asp); and the library named for him by his son (Jr.) is called the William Andrews Clark Memorial Library, and on and on. There are counter examples -- for example, sometimes The New York Times called him William A. Clark -- but it clearly was the name he was most known by, and wanted to be known by, according to the family. On balance, I'd say the best reference of all is the library named for him by his son.CrimesOfPatriots (talk) 05:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Two quick searches of Google Books using the following search strings seems to favor the current name of this article:
- "william andrews clark" montana : About 1,900 results
- "william a clark" montana : About 4,280 results
--Robert.Allen (talk) 17:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
It appears that the most common name he used was W.A. Clark -- his bank, for example, was called W.A. Clark & Brother. It seems fine to name this article William A. Clark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.58.238.154 (talk) 17:04, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
some-thing's wrong
editHe died in the twenties, yet the article says that he bought up copies of a book published in 1939.Kdammers (talk) 06:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
- In researching on Huguette, I found a reference that William Andrews Clark's "heirs" bought up all the copies of the book, save one, which indicated it was published in 1941. Activist (talk) 19:44, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Errors
editI found many mistakes in this family's history both on the Wikipedia page and in various "reliable" sources that often contradicted each other (i.e., NBC, NY Times, NPR most recently that had his name as "Andrews William Clark"). The authors of a biography of Huguette spent a great deal of time and money to track down original documents, including ship manifests, passport information and residence addresses. I found errors in genealogical records that contained the correct dates alongside erroneous ones. I corrected as many dates and spellings as possible and deleted massive overlinking of places of births and deaths. I note that Clark's mother's maiden name was "Andrews". The family used various nicknames that confused things more. Katherine Lewis Clark (Morris) was referred to as "Katie," and I found reference to a June 1880 census from Butte City, Deer Lodge County, Montana Territory, erroneously listing her as "Kate," and accurately at five years old, which verified the May 11, 1875 d.o.b. I found later census documents listing Katherine Lewis and her family until 1930 as domiciled in New York. The census records between 1870 and 1930 often even contained names of servants residing with the extended family in Montana Territory and state, and NYC. Katherine Lewis was listed here as dying in 1974, but I found no verification for that, and she was absent in the Social Security Death Index under her maiden and married names, which was compiled initially in the 1930's, following the creation of Social Security, so I changed it to another year of death which I found, 1933, predeceasing her husband by three years. Activist (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
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