Talk:Wichita language

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I just read about this dying out language in a magazine. Now I'm a bit confused: In the magazine it says, there are 7 speakers, the table in the article here says 3 and the article itself 1. So, how many Wichita speakers are there???--Alexmagnus2 17:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a pretty arbitrary number. The 7 number I know for a fact is too large by now. I have worked with Dr. Rood, the expert on the language, and last I heard there was only 1 truly fluent speaker of the language, and without anybody to practice with even that level of fluency is debatable. The other 2-6 individuals, depending on what you read, can understand spoken Wichita and can produce broken Wichita. Most of these individuals were in their 70s and 80s last I heard and some of them have certainly passed away. Wichita is for all intents and purposes nearly extinct. 128.138.64.115 (talk) 22:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Status of Language

What is the status on the "Wichita Documentation Project" and the classes that they offered? I've gone through the links provided, a few are outdated, and the last update on the class site is for 2009.

Mr Languages (talk) 23:38, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm out of touch with folks doing the Wichita language classes through the tribe, but I'll ask around this coming week. In the meantime, you can reach David Rood at david.rood@colorado.edu. -Uyvsdi (talk) 00:04, 30 August 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Contradiction

The opening paragraph of Wichita language#Number marking says

Countable nouns can be marked for dual or plural; if not so marked, they are assumed to be singular.

But earlier, Wichita language#Grammar and morphology, paragraph 2, says

Nouns do not distinguish between singular and plural, as this information is specified as part of the verb.

These contradict each other. Loraof (talk) 20:54, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

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Not extinct according to UNESCO Atlas

Thought I'd leave a note that the UNESCO Atlas of the World's Languages In Danger lists Wichita as critically endangered but not extinct as of 2010. I don't know enough to resolve the conflicting information (maybe it's a terminology issue?) but perhaps someone else can. Botterweg14 (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

It went extinct in 2016, so that makes sense. — kwami (talk) 22:01, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

ichirrise... example is contradictory

• /ɾ/, /j/, and /h/ change to /s/ after /s/ or /t͡s/:

ichiris-ye:ckeʔe:kʔa

bird-ember

→ ichirisse:ckeʔe:kʔa

 

ichiris-ye:ckeʔe:kʔa

bird-ember

'redbird'

In the phonological changes section after the consonants in section, in the Phonology supersection, theres this example. but it's contradictory since h should change to s after c, i.e. icsiriss... (icciriss... ?).

How can I add a "contradictory" note? Ill look into it later. Awelotta (talk) 01:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

The article matches the source (Rood). I was considering that maybe it only occurs at morpheme boundaries but Rood doesn't say that. Awelotta (talk) 01:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)