Talk:What About Us (Pink song)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:What About Us (Pink song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 17:46, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

First time grabbing an article under my new signature, I'll take this on soon but it will probably come in stages due to the article being very long but that's great to see one so large! --K. Peake 17:46, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Use bullet points instead of hlist in the infobox  Done removed the hlist
• Add streaming to the formats with the appropriate target, directly after digital download  Done
• Are you sure CD single is appropriate to be first, or should it come after the above two?  Done Changed positions
• WP:OVERLINK of Pink under songwriters  Done
• "It was released" → "The song was released for digital download and streaming" with the targets  Done
• Wikilink lead single to itself  Done
• "The track was written by" → "It was written by"  Done
• "and produced by the latter." → "while produced by the latter of the three."  Done
• "Musically, "What About Us" is as an EDM song" → "Musically, the song is an EDM track"  Done
• "an upbeat dance production" → "upbeat dance production" with the appropriate wikilink per MOS:LINK2SECT  Done
• "by the current political state, Pink composed the track" → "by the political state at the time, Pink composed it"  Done
• Target political to Music and politics on the second mention of the word  Done
• "It lyrically delves into her" → "Lyrically, the song delves into her"  Done
• "depicts a message about people" → "paints a message about those"  Done
• "garnered positive reviews from" → "garnered mostly positive reviews from"  Done
• "many of whom commending" → "many of whom commended"  Done
• "the political message" → "the political message of "What About Us""  Done
• ""What About Us" was a commercial success" remove this sentence since it is redundant for the lead due to the other commercial performance sentences  Done Replaced the sentence with "Commercially,"
• "ninth number-one song on the" → "ninth song to top the"  Done
• "becoming the soloist" → "surpassing Katy Perry as the soloist"  Done
• "The track reached the summit of" → "The song reached the summit on"  Done
• "Poland, and Switzerland, and peaked within the top 10 in 12 others." → "Poland and Switzerland. It further peaked within the top 10 in 12 other territories, including Canada and the United Kingdom."  Done
• ""What About Us" was nominated" → "The song was nominated"  Done
• "while being chased by helicopter searchlight hovers" are you sure this is true since the section does not say the helicopter chases them?

I believe it's true since the section does mention that there was "a helicopter police chase", and in the video, the searchlight that kept hovering over came from the same helicopter police chase. - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 19:43, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

• "The visual attracted the attention of various music critics, who commended" → "The video received positive reviews from critics, who praised"  Done
• "live on multiple occasions, including the" → "live for the"  Done
• "other televised appearances, and her" → "other televised appearances, as well as her"  Done

Writing and inspiration

• "After conducting her" → "After conducting the"  Done
• "which influenced her music." → "which influenced the music."  Done
• "while production was handled by the latter." → "with production being handled by Mac."  Done
• "In an interview with Vulture," → "In an interview with Vulture," with the target  Done
• "discussions and anecdotes between herself and McDaid" → "discussions and anecdotes with McDaid"  Done
• "for the songs. McDaid noted" → "for the album's songs, and McDaid noted"  Done
• "and she expressed herself" → "and expressed herself"  Done
• "during the same session;" → "during the session;"  Done
• "When asked about the inspiration behind the song and the development process," → "When asked about the creation of the song," as that's more accurate  Done

Composition and lyrical interpretation

• Are you sure the quote box shouldn't be in the previous section instead since it seems more relevant to that?  Done I was skeptical at first about having two long quotes in the same section, but it's definitely more relevant. I also added an image of Mac instead. - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 20:05, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
• Wikilink upbeat to itself  Done
• "song with a length of four minutes and 29 seconds." → "song, with a length of 4:29."  Done
• "production makes use" → "production of the song makes use"  Done
• Remove target on keyboards  Done
• "published at Musicnotes.com by Sony/ATV Music Publishing," → "published at Musicnotes.com," since this is too much detail  Done
• Wikilink time signature to itself and remove the target on common time  Done
• Target key to Key (music)  Done
• "of A♭ major with a moderate" → "of A♭ major, with a moderate"  Done
• Remove wikilink on beats per minute  Done
• Wikilink chord progression to itself  Done
• "and a half octaves, from" → "and a half octaves, going from" with the wikilink  Done
• "Music critics noted that" → "Music journalists noted that"  Done
• "as a ballad, with piano" → "as a ballad, featuring piano"  Done
• Target acoustic to Acoustic music  Done
• "about a relationship at first glance." → "about a relationship at first."  Done
• "and a social commentary on her belief" → "that provides social commentary on her belief"  Done
• "According to her, the" → "According to Pink, the"  Done
• "The track is also inspired by" → "The track also took inspiration from"  Done
• "and the unclear question of the song is" → "and the unclear question is"  Done
• "it a sense of an "incredible" → "the song a sense of "this incredible,"  Done
• "finds Pink asking urgent questions" → "sees Pink asking urgent questions"  Done
• ""soaring " chorus, singing" → ""soaring" chorus, singing," with the target  Done
• "happy ever afters?"." → "happy ever afters?"" per MOS:QWQ  Done
• "the lines aforementioned. McNeilage believed that the lyrics" → "the aforementioned lyrics; McNeilage believed that they"  Done
• "Both Ross McNeilage of MTV and Justin Moran of Out found" → "Ross McNeilage of MTV and Justin Moran of Out both observed"  Done

Release and artwork

• "she was filming a music video" → "she was filming the music video" with the wikilink  Done
• Target single to Single (music)  Done
• "on her social media page," → "via her social media page," to avoid confusion  Done
• This captioned post does not appear to be backed up  Done
• Could you reword the opening two sentences of this section so they have proper relevance to the song for staying on focus?  Done
• "with her back turned in front" → "with her back turned, in front"  Done
• "She later unveiled" → "Pink later unveiled"  Done
• "artwork, a black-and-white" → "artwork, which is a black-and-white" with the target  Done
• "It was photographed by" → "The picture was photographed by"  Done
• "on August 10, 2017, as" → "on August 10, 2017, by Pink's record label RCA Records as"  Done
• Wikilink lead single to itself  Done
• "with the album pre-order." → "with the pre-order of the album."  Done
• "lyric video was uploaded onto Pink's official" → "lyric video was uploaded to Pink's" with the wikilink  Done
• Remove wikilink on RCA Records  Done
• "to Italian contemporary hit radio" → "to Italian contemporary hit radio stations" with the wikilink  Done
• "Germany on August 18, 2017." → "Germany on August 18, 2017 through Sony Music." with the wikilink  Done
• "in various countries." → "and streaming in various countries through Pink's record label."  Done
• "A month later, on October 20, 2017, a remix version" → "On October 20 of the following month, a remix of the song"  Done

Critical reception

• "Upon release, "What About Us" was met with" → ""What About Us" was met with"  Done
• "commended the track, highlighting the singer's" → "commended the track and highlighted Pink's"  Done
• Vulture should be italicised  Done
• "Mike Nied of Idolator commended the track" → "Nied praised the track"  Done
• "Mike Wass from the same publication favored" → "Mike Wass, also from Idolator, favored" as this reminds us that the aforementioned is from the publication  Done
• "feelings" and her powerful voice." → "feelings", as well as Pink's powerful voice."  Done
• Target socially conscious to Social consciousness  Done
• "Chris Willman labelled it as a" → "Chris Willman labelled the song a"  Done
• "and positively comparing it to" → "and he positively compared the song to"  Done
• "According to the author, the anthemic song" → "According to Unterberger, the "anthemic" song"  Done
• "Justin Moran of Out complimented the powerful" → "Moran complimented the powerful"  Done
• "On his review of" → "In his review of"  Done
• "Chris Gerard from Washington Blade" → "Chris Gerard from the Washington Blade"  Done
• "vocal performance gave it a" → "vocal performance gives it a"  Done
• "up at the stars'."" → "up at the stars'"."  Done
• Start the Grammy sentence with something like "Awards wise," followed by the info, to separate from the negative review  Done
• "received a Grammy Award nomination" → "received a Grammy nomination"  Done
• Target to 60th Annual Grammy Awards should solely be on the 60th Annual part of the text here  Done

Commercial performance

• "number-one songs on chart." → "number one songs on the chart." on the img main text  Done
• "In the United States, "What About Us"" → "In the US, "What About Us""  Done
• "of the sales, streaming, and radio tracking week." → "of the tracking week."  Done
• "entering the Digital Songs chart" → "entering the US Digital Songs chart"  Done
• "to its peak of number three on the Digital Songs chart" → "to peak at number 3 on the chart" per MOS:NUM on comparative values  Done
• "top 40 song on the latter chart." → "top 40 song on the chart."  Done
• "eventually reached a new peak of number 13" → "eventually peaked at number 13 on the Hot 100,"  Done
• "on the Radio Songs chart at number 41" → "on the US Radio Songs chart at number 41,"  Done
• "and has reached a peak of number three" → "and went on to peak at number 3"  Done
• "It also peaked at" → "It further peaked at"  Done
• "reach the summit of the" → "reach the summit of the US"  Done
• "the most number-one singles," → "the most number one singles on the chart,"  Done
• "Pink's fourth number-one single." → "Pink's fourth number one single on the chart."  Done
• "reached the summit of the" → "reached the summit of the US"  Done
• "Barry Harris and Madison Mars, among others." → "Barry Harris, and Madison Mars, among others."  Done
• "total copies in the United States." → "total copies in the US."  Done
• "The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) certified it platinum for selling over a million equivalent units in the country." → "It was later certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for selling 1,000,000 certified units in the country." with the target  Done
• "and received a triple platinum" → "and ultimately received a triple platinum"  Done
• "and rose to number five" → "and rose to number 5"  Done
• "top 10 song in the nation." → "top 10 song in the United Kingdom."  Done
• "33,584 copies and spending three non-consecutive weeks in" → "33,584 units and spending three non-consecutive weeks at"  Done
• "The British Phonographic Industry (BPI) awarded a platinum certification to the song for accumulating 600,000 equivalent sales units in the UK." → "The song was later certified platinum by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) for accumulating sales of 600,000 units in the UK."  Done
• "Across Europe," → "Across the rest of Europe,"  Done
• "of eight countries, notably in" → "for eight countries, such as"  Done
• "28,900 copies throughout 2017." → "28,900 copies in 2017."  Done
• "133,333 equivalent sales units." → "133,333 equivalent sales units in France."  Done
• Target ARIA Singles Chart to ARIA Charts  Done
• "hence becoming Pink's ninth number-one" → "with it also standing as Pink's ninth number one"  Done
• "It has been certified" → "The song has since been certified"  Done
• "280,000 equivalent units." → "280,000 equivalent units in Australia."  Done
• "It has received a platinum" → "It was later awarded a platinum"  Done
• "30,000 equivalent units sold." → "30,000 equivalent units sold in the country."  Done

Music video

Background and development

• Remove wikilink on music video  Done
• "Choreographed by Nick Florez and RJ Durell," → "Choreography was handled by Nick Florez and RJ Durell,"  Done
• "the video included" → "with the video including"  Done
• "by the UK art school scene, described" → "by the UK art school scene for the visual, which were described"  Done
• "the dance scene between the two men," → "the dance scene between two men,"  Done
• "said that she wanted to illustrate "a" → "said that she had the idea "to illustrate a"  Done
• "in a space where they could behave" → "in a space for them to behave"  Done
• "dream the singer had." → "dream that the singer had."  Done
• "as a top light, operating" → "as a top light for the video, which operated"  Done
• "Hudson called it" → "Hudson called the helicopter usage"  Done
• "The music video for "What About Us" was released on" → "The music video was released on" to avoid unnecessary repetition  Done

Synopsis

• Img looks good
• "showing an urban area," "that show an urban area,"  Done
• Are you sure the target should be on samples since it is about the audio for the video, not the composition of any song?  Done Removed target.
• "from people protesting racism" → "of people protesting racism"  Done
• "His audio crossfades" → "The audio of Christie crossfades"  Done
• "going to reject racism!"." → "going to reject racism!""  Done
• "abandoned police cars flashing their lights." → "abandoned police cars that flash their lights."  Done
• "the video then cuts to a" → "the video cuts to a"  Done
• "where the video is set." → "where the visual is set."  Done
• "a gay couple is shown struggling," → "a gay couple are shown struggling,"  Done
• "as a helicopter searchlight" → "while a helicopter searchlight"  Done
• "black hoodie and gold sequin pants," → "black hoodie with gold sequin pants,"  Done
• "her dancers performing a choreography" → "her dancers performing choreography"  Done
• Doesn't appear to be backed up that the diner was late-night  Done Removed "late-night"
• "Following this, several shots of her" → "Following on from this, several shots of Pink"  Done
• "she is wearing on the album cover." → "that she wears on the cover of Beautiful Trauma."  Done
• "Pink is seen dancing in the desert with her dancers." → "Pink and her dancers are seen performing in the desert."  Done
• "In the final scene, an" → "During the final scene, the"  Done
• "man saying "Now is" → "man saying, "Now is"  Done

Reception and analysis

• Retitle to Critical reception  Done
• "was positively received by music critics upon its release." → "was met with positive reviews from critics."  Done
• "minorities in Trump's America"." → "minorities in Trump's America.""  Done
• ""stirring" and likened" → ""stirring", while likening"  Done
• "pointed out the singer's consistent release" → "pointed out Pink's consistent releasing"  Done
• "Mike Wass from Idolator deemed" → "Wass deemed"  Done
• "noticing that it's" → "noticing that it is"  Done
• "MTV's Ross McNeilage praised the video" → "McNeilage praised the video"  Done
• "writing that" → "while writing that"  Done
• "Allison Bowsher from Much likened" → "Bowsher likened"  Done
• "theme of "What About Us" with the music video" → "theme of the "What About Us" music video with the visual"  Done
• "Pink's 2012 single," → "Pink's 2012 single"  Done

Live performances

• Img is missing a full-stop at the end of the main text  Done
• Remove the opening sentence of this section  Done
• "The song was performed live" → "Pink performed "What About Us" live"  Done
• "that year she performed" → "that year, she performed"  Done
• Are you sure there is enough reviews to back up the reception for the performance?  Done Removed sentence
• "MTV News' Hilary Hughes felt that" → "Hughes felt that"  Done
• "of the song occurred on" → "of the song was delivered by Pink for"  Done
• "On September 8, 2017, Pink" → "Two days later, Pink"  Done
• "the 2017 Kaaboo Del Mar Festival where her" → "the 2017 Kaaboo Del Mar Festival, where her"  Done
• "of "What About Us" and other" → "of "What About Us", among other"  Done
• Remove target on singles  Done
• "performed "What About Us" on" → "performed "What About Us" for"  Done
• Put (SNL) directly after Saturday Night Live  Done
• Are you sure all three of the songs performed by her for CBS Radio have to be mentioned?  Done Removed songs
• "on November 15, 2017," → "on November 15 of that year,"  Done
• "In the United Kingdom, Pink" → "In the UK, Pink"  Done
• "performing "What About Us" on" → "performing "What About Us" for"  Done
• "She also performed the song" → "She performed the song"  Done
• "on the finale of the" → "on the finale for the"  Done
• "of the NRJ Music Tour. Her setlist included" → "of the NRJ Music Tour, with her setlist including"  Done
• "Pink performed the song again" → "Pink performed the song"  Done
• "where Pink talks about" → "that features Pink talking about"  Done

Cover versions

• "I will ever sound"." → "I will ever sound.""  Done
• Add when Payne performed the cover  Done
• "the song during the for the" → "the song for the"  Done
• "of Spanish music competition" → "of music competition" since we can tell it's Spanish from the context  Done
• Introduce who Kelly Clarkson is, as you have done for the others  Done
• "as part of its" → "as part of the"  Done
• "said that Kelly's voice voice" → "said that Clarkson's voice"  Done
• "into the song," → "into a version of the song"  Done

Track listing

• Retitle to Track listings  Done
• Wikilink to Tiësto should not be on the title of the remix release; keep it solely under the track title part for that remix  Done

Credits and personnel

• Rather than using sub-sections, separate with sub-headings  Done
• Fix typo next to Matt Dyson  Done
• Are you sure John Hanes was "engineered for mix"?

This is what the CD single credit says, see here - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Charts

Weekly charts

• Target Brasil Hot 100 Airplay to Top 100 Brasil  Done
• Target HRT to Hrvatska radiotelevizija  Done
• I don't think the radio charts for the Czech Republic and Slovakia should be here, as the singles digital ones are already included for the countries  Done
• Iceland (Tonlist) → Iceland (Plötutíðindi)  Done
• Target Mexico Airplay to List of Billboard Mexico Airplay number ones  Done
• Are you sure the second Romanian chart should be here since that makes two airplay charts for the country? Removed
• Remove Ukraine per WP:CHARTS

 Not done WP:CHARTS specifies not to use FDR Charts for Ukraine, but the article cites Tophit as a notable chart. - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 12:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Monthly charts

• Ditto for Ukraine

See above. - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 12:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Year-end charts

• Remove capitalisation on Year-end in the captions since the actual years are what they start with  Done
• Israel (Galgalatz) → Israel (Galgalatz) with the wikilink  Done
• Remove Ukraine per WP:CHARTS

See above. - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 12:15, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

All-time charts

• Make the positions sortable  Done

Certifications

• Fix the search for the Norway certification to include the song name as well as that of the artist  Not done It's an automatic cert table entry, I'm not sure you change the search url manually - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 12:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
• Fix the one for Sweden per Template:Certification Table Entry  Done

Release history

• Wikilink Contemporary hit radio to itself  Done
• Target Sony to Sony Music  Done
• CD Single → CD single  Done
• Digital download should have a rowspan of 2 at the bottom  Done
• Ditto for RCA  Done
• Remove target on EP  Done

See also

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks decent at 38.3%
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Add "on Apple Music" to the title of ref 1 and cite iTunes Store (US) as the publisher instead
• WP:OVERLINK of iTunes Store on ref 9
• Cite Idolator as publisher instead for ref 15, while keeping the target
• Ditto for ABC News on ref 18
• Cite E! Online instead for ref 19 with the wikilink
• Cite Idolator as publisher instead for refs 25 and 88
• Ditto for MTV on ref 28
• Amazon.com → Amazon.de on ref 32
• WP:OVERLINK of iTunes Store on refs 33 and 34, plus add multiple countries to verify that those releases were various
• WP:OVERLINK of Gay Times on ref 39
• Target Variety to Variety (magazine) on ref 42
• Cite MTV News as publisher instead for ref 43
• Cite Def Jam Radio Promo as the publisher for ref 56 and target to Def Jam Recordings
• Remove InfoDisc from the title of ref 71 and cite as publisher instead
• Add an archive for ref 77 or use a different source
• Wikilink Entertainment Tonight Canada to itself on ref 81
• Anthony Hernandez, Brian → Hernandez, Brian Anthony on ref 82
• Cite MTV as publisher instead for ref 84
• Wikilink Entertainment Tonight to itself on ref 91
• Cite Much as publisher instead for refs 92 and 118
• Remove target on MTV for ref 94
• Remove target on Time for ref 95
• Cite MTV News as publisher instead for ref 97
• Amabile Angermiller, Michele → Angermiller, Michele Amabile on ref 102
• Remove or replace ref 108 since adding Instagram is generally discouraged
• Wikilink Digital Spy to itself on ref 110
• MOS:QWQ issues with ref 114  Not done The ref does respect the MOS though?
• Ref 125 should cite an archive and are you sure the title is correct?
• Target HRT to Hrvatska radiotelevizija on ref 131 and fix MOS:CAPS issues
• WP:OVERLINK of National-Report on refs 135 and 168
• Ditto for Billboard on refs 136 and 147
• Cite Metro Broadcast Corporation as publisher instead for ref 138
• Cite Plötutíðindi as the publisher for ref 142
• Remove Media Forest from the title of ref 155
• Remove SloTop50 from the title of ref 159 and cite it as the publisher with the wikilink
• WP:OVERLINK of SloTop50 on refs 169 and 200, and delete it from the titles
• Cite Tophit as publisher instead for ref 170 and remove the wikilink
• Remove Ö3 Austria Top 40 from the title of ref 172 and cite as the publisher with the wikilink
• SNEP(Syndicat National de l'Edition phonographique) → Syndicat National de l'Édition Phonographique (SNEP) on ref 176
• Cite Gfk Entertainment as the publisher instead for ref 177
• Target Mahasz to Association of Hungarian Record Companies on ref 178
• Remove target on Kiss FM for refs 185 and 199
• WP:OVERLINK of SloTop50 on ref 186
• Ditto for Tophit on ref 196
• WP:OVERLINK of Mahasz on ref 197
• Walla → Walla! instead on ref 198, as publisher and with the wikilink
• Ref 212 is missing an accessdate
• WP:OVERLINK of Music Week on ref 218
• Remove BBC from the title of ref 219 and cite BBC as the sole publisher with the wikilink

All  Done except where noted. - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 14:12, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold after reviewing over the course of two days, props on how broad this article is but it still needs some fixes before becoming a GA. --K. Peake 10:24, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Hi! Thank you very much for dedicating your time and energy into reviewing this article. I think I covered every suggestion and issue, except for some noted. Please let me know if I missed something or if there's anything else I can do. Greets; - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 14:15, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Gabrielflorin01: Very happy with such a quick response, sorry about the confusion due to refs being switched but what I called #114 is now #113, the France-Soir ref and it needs fixing. --K. Peake 15:00, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Done fixing the ref, along with some other minor stuff. - Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 15:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

✓ Pass after all of your amazing work, though I did some brief copy editing. --K. Peake 15:46, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

"What About Us (Pink song" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect What About Us (Pink song has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 13 § What About Us (Pink song until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)