Talk:What's So Amazing About Grace?

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 15:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi! Will review this. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 15:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Lead

• We typically don't keep citations in lead, they go to the main text. The main text should have all the facts of lead.
  • Citations are justified for quotations. It is quotations in the lead I would be more concerned with as they are usually more specific than what an summary should include. I think the Clinton quote is acceptable. The second one could be cut and the last two could be summarized.
    • Done [1]
• God chooses to forgive some of the worst people imaginable. Could not understand this
  • Modified it I assume your confusion is coming from what "imaginable" is referring to (ie. that God can imagine?)
• In 2006, it placed 17th "ranked" 17th?
  • Done [2]

Background

• when he went to the White House Could add why he went there.
  • Done [3]
• What's So Amazing About Grace? is his best-known This part from the caption can be added to the main text with the appropriate source.
  • it already is: middle of final paragraph of "Background" section. I don't have access to the reference (Bristol Post) to confirm it though.
• The caption of the image of Clinton could be shortened like "Yancey was inspired by Clinton to write the book."
  • Agreed. [4]

Content

• Could we add some good quotes from the book, using a quote template?
  • I agree, this would be beneficial. This would illustrate the writing style of the book in a way that no summary, adverbs, or adjectives could.
    • Added something [5] from skimming google books preview. I haven't read this book, so there may be better quotes.
• Is it necessary to include the story of "Babette's Feast" here? Yancey similarly summarizes Gabriel García Márquez's novel Love in the Time of Cholera This is short and apt for our purpose.
  • I edited it a bit but I'm ok with it here. I think it provides an illustrative example of the topic and how Yancey is approaching the topic (through anecdotes and examples).
• with the spendthrift child a daughter Is a comma missing?
  • Done [6]

Influence

• such as Paul the Apostle, who persecuted Christians Better add this in the lead as well, I could not understand the concept here before looking at the example.
  • I clarified this [7]
• The Purpose Driven Life is a duplicate link
  • Done [8]

Secular media

• Link Shakespearan
  • Shakespearean is just a redirect to William Shakespeare which is already linked to in the article.

Public figures

• Searle had become irreligious by 2001 It should be clear which sister you are referring to.
  • Done [9]

General: Can the captions be shortened a bit? Never saw such long ones elsewhere.

• I shortened some a bit [10] I think the rest are relevant, if a bit long. The John Newton image seems like an unnecessary stretch - i have no objection to its removal.

Rest looks good. The prose is well-written and interesting. Sources fine, no copyvio detected, images nice. These done, I would be glad to promote this. Cheers! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 06:41, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

@Maclean25: Happy to see someone helping here. I am satisfied with your replies and the changes made till now, please let me know when you are done. Thanks, Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

@Maclean25: Have you completed your work on this review? Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 13:02, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

• Yeah, I'm done. I've answered your points to the best of my abilities. maclean (talk) 06:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

• Splendid, you have helped a lot. I believe this article is ready for promotion, the nominator can add more and perhaps better quotes when he returns. Cheers! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 06:14, 13 April 2016 (UTC)