Talk:West (publisher)

Supreme Court Reporter and Hubke

Wasn't there a reference to the Hubke decision in the Supreme Court Reporter? Seems there was once, but in some SCRs there isn't? The same with Hickman vs. Jones, there's a federal reference, but questions arise about the Supreme Court reports.

Hard to cite case law when it's there one moment and gone the next. At least California's consistent in its inconsistency with case law. Many recent decisions have come from CMF at Vacaville, and there's lots of medication there. I believe that West's has to dutifully report the case law decisions irregardless of their origins, but it makes for difficult reading at times.

Or are there some decisions that West's omits?

Supreme Court Reporter should eventually have everything, basically because it has to be at least as inclusive as U.S. and L.Ed.2d. Different in other areas. F.3d obviously doesn't have everything, because there is Fed. Appx. of unpublished decisions, which, however, aren't as West says "not selected for publication in F.3d," but usually designated "Not for publication." It was noted a while back that F. Supp. is not inclusive of cases printed by CCH and BNA, and in fact, West would delete citations in the court opinion to those sources, and just say [unpublished]. There are, of course, all sorts of opinions that have WL cites but not printed ones, such as 200X Ohio 1234, 200X WL 987654, or Mass. App. Div. However, once a case gets into a bound volume, it is as permanent as it can get. One should also remember that unless West is designated as the official reporter, citations to the Official Reports, such as U.S. or N.Y. are required, so that governs.

Of course, since you aren't paying me for legal research, I can't spend the time or paid databases to find the particular case. Busjack (talk) 14:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

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Clear violation of WP:UNDUE

I keep seeing these random edits that attack West's outsourcing policy. This is ridiculous because most major corporations outsource jobs all the time. It puts undue emphasis on an issue that is clearly a tangent, in violation of WP:UNDUE, and also in violation of WP:NOT (Wikipedia is not a soapbox). It's as silly and childish as adding a statement to the articles on Microsoft or Procter & Gamble that the vast majority of their employees wear underwear, or that their CEOs take home millions of dollars each year. That is, like those statements, the statement is most likely true, but does not add any actual substance to the article.

Besides, only losers complain about outsourcing. (There's a talk that most responsible parents give their kids about not talking or acting like a loser, which the person who inserted those edits obviously missed out on.) Smart, successful people upgrade their skills and move to where the jobs are. --Coolcaesar (talk) 07:04, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Article has been out of date since Feb 2013 due to ownership change

According to http://home.westacademic.com/legal-publisher, "West" is a trademark of West Publishing Corporation, which was acquired by Eureka Growth Capital in 2013. According to http://www.startribune.com/west-academic-to-move-to-downtown-st-paul/215879701/ and other sources Thomson Reuters sold it to Eureka in Feb 2013. Nurg (talk) 21:40, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Furthermore, no explanation was given in edit summaries for changing the name from "Thomson West", in either the text or the article title, and I don't see the justification for it.

Does it even exist as an identifiable business now, or has it been fully integrated into Thomson's legal division? Nurg (talk) 03:00, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I suspect it was integrated and they are now treating West as a legacy brand to be phased out as soon as they can get away with it. The only place I see the name coming up is on the Law Books catalog page, where they claim their books are "backed by the legacy of West Publishing." Also, all of their publications appear to be transitioning towards the Thomson Reuters logo and copyright. I think they are trying to transition to Thomson Reuters as their single unified international brand name, much as LexisNexis did with all their publisher acquisitions. It's appalling to see them walk away from the West legacy, a brand name strongly associated with the National Reporter System, especially since West was working fine as a subbrand under the Thomson brand name. --Coolcaesar (talk) 00:39, 21 January 2017 (UTC)