Talk:Waterpark College

Non Notable Alumni

The Alumni section is for alumni who have actually achieved some level of notability. It is not a section for ego-tripping. Creating a small topical website or a forum is not in itself notable. There are millions of such websites. Creating something like Google etc is notable. Being a broadcaster with decades of broadcasting experience and immediate name recognition is notable. Jmccormac (talk) 16:01, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

• And Jmccormac, you may not know this, but the convention on Wikipedia is that only people with articles get included in such lists. Drmies (talk) 16:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Jmccormac (talk) 16:36, 9 September 2011 (UTC) Here in the real world, the governments and the history books and the media decide who is notable. You asked for an article (implying Wikipedia) and I provided a link to the Irish government's reference along with a Wikipedia reference to put it in context for you. There are even more in legal works and even newspapers citing Hearne's work and position in drafting the 1937 constitution. Jmccormac (talk) 16:36, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

• We're not in the real world. You could, of course, simply have written the article. Drmies (talk) 16:42, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
• BTW, I don't see where your source says that he attended Waterpark. Drmies (talk) 16:44, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
• Ha, there is a John Hearne who teaches at Waterpark--they're not saying nice things about him, and I hope he pays no attention to those nonsense sites. Drmies (talk) 16:48, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

No I did not write the article. Had I done so, it would flow better. Not everything is in Google and a lot of historical data is still in school year books, newspaper reports and other media. Most of this information is inaccessible to search engines. This makes it somewhat more difficult for people who are probably not professional researchers or even in the same country to check accuracy of articles. Jmccormac (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

"It would flow better." Well, thanks. FYI, Google delivered plenty of information to me in the US to write at least a decent stub, even if my "flow" doesn't measure up to your exacting prose standards. Oh, school year books are not reliable sources. Drmies (talk) 17:12, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Google's access to a lot of newspaper archives is somewhat limited because many newspapers charge for access and some of the smaller provincial and local ones would have limited lifespans. They also are more likely to have never digitised their content. School year books are actually quite reliable as they can associate an individual with a particular school in a particular year. They also contain some history of the school and may also contain details on past-pupils who have died during the year. This data can be correlated with the death notices in the media. However this kind of data correlation is probably a bit more than is necessary for the odd Wikipedia article. Jmccormac (talk) 17:26, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Remember, you distinguished the real world from this one. In this world, yearbooks are not considered reliable sources. But all that's besides the point: there are plenty of sources available via the internet to fill out his article. Drmies (talk) 17:30, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

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