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editSecond highest?? Hmm The Cat & Fiddle Inn on the A537 Derbyshire/Cheshire boundary above Buxton has an asl of 510m or so.
In my youth it claimed to be the highest pub in England open all year (Because Tan Hill used to shut in the winter I think)
Linuxlad 15:40, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
You're probably right! The WHI on Dartmoor has claimed to be the second highest for many years and as far as I know, no one has challenged it. JonC
Well it's 250ft less than Cat & Fiddle (1690 ft) and more than 300ft lower than Tan Hill (1732ft on the Pennine Way near Keld) - I'd have expected there were a few others in that bracket in the peak and pennines (not to mention Kirkstone Pass Inn in the Lakes, 1481ft, I gather).
Might be better to claim 'highest in SW England' :-)
PS highest village is claimed by some to be Flash, Staffordshire at 1518ft.
All asls are from unchecked web sources, but agree with my previous understanding. Linuxlad
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Your suggestion is sensible until someone can prove otherwise! I found a British climber's website that rated the Warren House Inn as the third highest pub in England, but no clues as to how they worked this out. Next time I'm at the WHI I'll ask them for proof of their claims ;-) JonC
I have just found a website listing the highest, and rating the WHI as the FOURTH highest in England: http://www.bondle.co.uk/personal_pages/jon/pubs/topten.html It might be sensible to amend the Dartmoor entry to read: 'believed to be the fourth highest pub in England' or (safer) 'one of the highest pubs in England'. JonC
Looks a good reference. A few points -
- a) Mr Bondle gives 1350ft asl for WHI - rather lower than yours, IIRC - should be easy to check
- b) I reckon 'highest in SW England', or '... Southern England' reads better :-)
- c) Mr Bondle has no excuse for not visiting Cat & Fiddle - it's on the main Macclesfield to Buxton Road and on a 'walkers highway' - part of the dreaded '4 Inns Walk'
- d) I've put in a stub on Flash, Staffordshire - which claims to be 'the highest village in England' - another fruitful area for dispute I suspect.
Linuxlad 10:23, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
-- I added the story about the fire and the shovel. The landlord told it to me, if that counts as a reference. It is probably as 'true' as the other bits of folklore, and is part of the story of the pub, as I see it. Nice article. 22:54, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)~
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Mr Bondle gives 1420ft for the WHI, 1350 is for the entry below; The Lion at Blakey. Mr Bondle hasn't visited the Cat & Fiddle because he has a little child and can't get away so often now. His measurements are made by using a Garmin Legend in WAS mode, by laying the instrument on the ground, three feet in front of the pub threshold.
I have been to flash, and have measured the altitude of the pub at 1,160ft, which is lower than the highest pub, just outside and above Alston in Cumbria which I measured at 1,210 ft. I haven't updated my site for a while as the photos of these are packed away in a box somewhere and I am still trying to find them or go back and take more. When I visited them last I was still using a 35mm SLR.
Regards
JonF (Mr Bondle) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.16.181 (talk) 17:55, 30 August 2009 (UTC)