Talk:WTA Tour records

Monika Seles

When you talk about Best annual singles winning percentage why next to Monika Seles and years 1991, 1992... there's the US instead Yugoslav flag? She has played for Serbia, Yugoslavia then —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.92.231.28 (talk) 12:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I believe you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Section order

I would propose to move the earnings section, presently section 1, to the bottom of the page. It is worth mentioning, but less relevant than actual tennis achievements.Gap9551 11:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gap9551 (talk • contribs)

I agree. It may not need to be the bottom but the top is the wrong place for it. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:47, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

It's not at the bottom but it looks good in the lower third. It's Cool, Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:16, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Tidying Up

Hi I am trying to improve this articles layout and make it more in line with this articles layout ATP World Tour records. It makes sense. I am not as experienced as other editors here in attempting layout formats correctly but am giving it go. I would appreciate any cooperation from anyone to check and change layout, double check statistics are correct etc, fill in sections I have added many thanks --Navops47 (talk) 09:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I've just done a tidy-up of the nesting, as it seems to me it ought to go. Someone please check that I haven't got any of it wrong? Thanks almost-instinct 10:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

One quick change to consecutive number of slams -- Marina Hingis had 11 consecutive semifinals, but is not listed in the consecutive quarterfinals list. She has the same 11 quarterfinals, so she should be added somewhere in the middle of that list. Thanks Dnsla (talk) 08:22, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Consider it done. MakeSense64 (talk) 08:51, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I was reading this article and wonder why Sabatini (her correct spelling is Gabriela with one "l") is not ranked at the players with most Slams semifinals, as she reached that stage 18 times out of 43 Slams she played? She also reached a total 28 Quarter finals at the Slams, which should also be listed. Same her winning percentage at Wimbledon, which puts her 10th as it is exactly the same than that of the French Open (it's not 41 but 42 wins, 11 losses, 79.24%). I hope you can correct them!Gabytd (talk) 20:16, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

These are WTA records aren't they?

I just noticed that today someone added Lourdes Domínguez Lino to the list of "Most singles matches won" on the WTA Tour. Well that number is incorrect and I was going to remove it instantly when I noticed that Maria Sharapova's numbers are just as ridiculous. Those two player's 451 totals are not WTA tour victories. Both the ITF and WTA websites are pretty clear that those total victories INCLUDE minor victories on the ITF tour which is not part of the WTA. Either this chart (and maybe others here) has to be scrapped or someone is going to have to actually add up the correct totals minus the ITF tour. Otherwise this article would need a new title because those are not WTA records. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:11, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

In 1980 Evonne Cawley won Wimbledon but didn't win any other tournament. Where did you get the figure of 15 titles? 58.110.99.240 (talk) 06:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)Geoffrey Hilliard

Consecutive streaks

I have a question for the consecutive streaks of the Grand Slam Singles Career Records (1973–present) section. I'll use examples to better explain what I want to say. Monica Seles has 6 consecutive finals to her name in this chart because she reached finals from the 1991 US Open to the 1993 Australian Open. However she also reached the final at the 1995 US Open which is the first Slam she played after the 1993 Australian Open (this is just an example, the streak is longer). I would consider this streak as consecutive because though she missed 10 Slams the streak was still alive. As I said, this is just an example. Am I wrong? Who should take an eventual decision about it? Sorry, I am new and maybe not too expert. Thanks. Grantedo (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that you could have a player say.... "I don't like that surface", "it's too tough for me", and have their streaks continue. That isn't right and it why the streak must contain each and every Major possible. Now, on the ATP article the men have an additional chart in addition to the consecutive chart. They have Consecutive and non-consecutive Majors winning streak tables. That could work here too. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:59, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for the explanation! Grantedo (talk) 20:05, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Tables not aligned

Can someone adjust the tables in the Tier 1 Premier Mandatory section I put in its been altered and I can't align it properly --Navops47 (talk) 09:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Done. Please check & confirm.

Thanks ! - Ninney (talk) 14:19, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for that much appreciated--Navops47 (talk) 14:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Rankings Totals

Regarding Rankings. I have read the guidelines that state ranking should be updated every week. In the event of a grand slam, they are post-dated. In my view, year end rankings tabulation is the same as post dating for a grand slam. There is no guideline or policy on wiki regarding what happens once the season is over. Furthermore, wikipedia has no right to trump what is already stated and directed by the WTA. I have cited the press release by the WTA regarding year end #1 and the tallies for Serena Williams. Please review: http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Archive/PressReleases/2014/1026_Williams_Errani_Vinci_Year_End_No1s.pdf This article clearly states that Serena Williams is year end #1, and has 221 total weeks and 97 consecutive weeks. There really isn't any argument here. Again... it has already by stated by the WTA. It is fact. It is done. It is history. Fyunck(click), you keep citing reasons why this might not actually happen. When the WTA has stated something as fact, it is not the job of Wikipedia to overrule them in the event of a highly unlikely and nearly impossible scenario such as a player asking to be removed from the rankings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kube8 (talk • contribs) 12:29, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

WTA singles titles and finals

How is it possible for Martina Navratilova to win 986 titles from 239 finals since 1973 ? Her Wikipedia page says she won 167 singles titles. Rmallett (talk) 14:12, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Somebody vandalized the figure I have corrected it and added a WTA source citation.--Navops47 (talk) 08:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Evonne Goolagong Inconsistency

When is the starting point to count Evonne Goolagongs Career Achievements for this page? Goolagong has reached 22 Grand-Slam-Semi-Finals. But in the Player-Totals-section she is only credited with 19 Semi-Finals. So someone has decided that only the Grand Slams from 1972 onwards count. From 1972 onwards she has reached 15 Grand-Slam-Finals, but she is only credited with 12, what means it counts from 1973 onwards. But in the "Most singles titles per Grand Slam" section she is credited with 2 Wimbledon-Championships, what would mean that it counts from 1971 onwards. --Intimidator (talk) 22:28, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

The starting point should be technically from June 1973 when the WTA was formed and all records in this article should be from that point if statistics overlap retrospectively they should be corrected accordingly and noted in the edit summary.--Navops47 (talk) 01:57, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

In the case of Goolagong's stats they should be counted forward from the 1973 US Open only.--Navops47 (talk) 01:59, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry not awake this morning the lead takes note that they are also including seasons of the Virginia Slims tour from 1970 to June 1973 when it was replaced by the WTA otherwise it would mean two a separate articles and really 2 seasons does not warrant a separate page possibly re-wording the lead, so as this is a combined tour records page stats are from 1970 onward.--Navops47 (talk) 02:11, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Navops for your answer. So I will go with 1970 onwards for Goolagongs career statistics. --Intimidator (talk) 16:17, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Titles and finals / Wozniacki is not active anymore

As Caroline Wozniacki retired after her third round loss at the 2020 AO, the section "titles and finals" needs to be updated. She is still listed on the two right info-boxes. I just didn't remove her from those lists as I don't know who would be now listed as a new No. 10. Anyone know where to find those stats and/or could potentially replace her with the now 11th best player when it comes to final appearances and titles won since 1973? --LH7605 (talk) 22:22, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Records page without sources?

This is not acceptable. There need to be references. A generic list at the bottom mentioning only the regular WTA rankings website location is not enough (there are a lot more stats here than weekly player rankings). And those stats tables need to be referenced with inline links to some sources or methods. Othewise how can you correct it if there are errors? --Loginnigol (talk) 08:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Dubious

This article is heavily riddled with factually inaccurate information. Practically half the stats are Open Era records, not tour records. That basically makes it redundant despite the lead section's warning not to conflate tour and open era. The redundancy being due to there being dedicated open era articles, whereas no Tour specific statistics page exists on Wikipedia. That is what this page should have focused on — regardless of whether WTA or other external first party sources collect pre-tour stats and (wrongly) present them as tour stats or not. --Loginnigol (talk) 08:47, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree - this page is a mess. I would suggest removing Grand Slam records from this page as it is fairly redundant to the Open Era Grand Slam records. This page should only be WTA Records and should focus on WTA tournaments, WTA Rankings, and some WTA statistics. Leave Gran Slams to the Open Era Records page. DropShot244 (talk) 00:41, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

@DropShot244, @Loginnigol: I've removed the Grand Slam records sections [1], as it is a completely arbitrary starting point for records for those tournaments, and covered in greater detail in the Open Era records article. Letcord (talk) 22:27, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Grand Slam alone stats are a bit of a misnomer in this article. Yes, tour record includes slams but inherently it also must include non slams. Because the fact of the matter is that the "part of the tour nature" of the Grand Slam events is their secondary nature. Their primary identity is separate from the tour, meaning they are spoken of as part of a tour only if non slam events are part of the discussion. That's why there are no reports and commentary that "player x has won y number of slams during the existence of Z tour". No they only say "...during the open era" or "...all time" or "during N time period....". L 00:04, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, Serena's career record is given as 855-152, whereas the WTA's website says that she is 858-156...

I tend to believe the WTA on this because it lines up with a full list of Serena's matches:https://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/wplayer-classic.cgi?p=SerenaWilliams&f=ACareerqq Rickwodz (talk) 20:17, 1 February 2024 (UTC)