Talk:Vanth

The Encyclopedia of Monsters

Would anyone be too terribly upset if I removed the reference to Jeff Rovin in this article stub? I am a grad student studying Etruscan archaeology (and in particular the underworld) and find no relevant information added by the reference to the Encyclopedia of Monsters. In no academic source is Vanth mentioned as encouraging people to be violent or to be attracted to open graves and tombs. Sigh... Hopefully if I find the time I'll come up with a longer entry to this important deity...--Kattie90 18:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

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This is precisely what I tried to do long ago, Kattie. ScottAndrewHutchins, a previous editor, was so obsessive that he simply wouldn't accept your (and my) point of view. He also couldn't understand my previous comment that Jeff Rovin was a "children's author" and that the cartooney pictures on the cover of "Encyclopedia of Monsters" were his first clue.

So at the time, to appease the loons, I set up a seperate section of trash authors which you rightly label "irrelevant". Indeed, it is, but tell that to ScottAndrewHutchins who wouldn't leave the issue alone and even followed me to the French Wikipedia to harrass me there and insist on Jeff Rovin as a valid author. Admins are useless.

Perhaps he's finally flown away now and the Vanth article can be set back to sanity again, but from my previous hell with trolls like this who strive to test the limits of people's "blind faith", I will not edit this article, or any article, ever again because it's a waste of time. I'll leave it up to the pecking hens in this coop while I use my time more wisely (studying at a library which you and everyone else on Wikipedia should be doing). Of course, I'll make occasional comments to guide puppies with green behind their ears from time to time, not for the sake of Wikipedia's success (please!) or the questionable sorts that depend solely on Wikipedia, but for the sake of intelligent netizens who google and datamine to expand their knowledge. Glengordon01 16:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

ScottAndrewHutchins misguided comments in favour of Jeff Rovin are recorded in the archives of the talk page of the Charun article here. This is what I was dealing with and why I now hate Wikipedia and Wikipedians with a passion. Thanks for your (unlikely) understanding. Glengordon01 16:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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Inhaling demons

Whoa. Where on earth is it claimed that Vanth "inhales demons"?? There's too much crap circulating about Etruscan mythology for me to take this seriously without solid evidence to back it up. --Glengordon01 11:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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Okay, I tracked the history of this claim to Firefly07:

"adn inhaled good demons. In later times she represented Justice."

Looks too ADHD for my liking. Firefly07 appears to no longer be with us which makes it more suspicious. I've taken it out and people can club me with a can of tuna if I've erred. --Glengordon01 11:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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Well, the "inhaled good demons" is back and god forbid I erase the nonsense, even when it is completely unsourced. Apparently as per the Charun page, nobody likes me erasing nonsense. So be it. I hope Scott Andrew Hutchins, the one who edited this phrase back in, can find a valid source within the next twenty years. I'm not sure how long we're going to have to wait before we can simply erase this stuff.

Given the state of Etruscanology, I'm pretty sure you could even find books proving that Etruscans are from Mars and had eight legs. So what is the value of these books when actual Etruscan artifacts show otherwise? For example, I just changed Tuchulcha which stated that it was a "demoness"... It's repeated by numerous websites but the artifacts show a bearded figure. It's patently insane what rot exists out there on Etruscan religion, even published rot. So this is why I'm concerned that WP's "belief system" doesn't quite apply here without ending up misinforming everyone on the subject and propogating silly memes. --Glengordon01 20:18, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

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Justice and Vanth

Hmm, this keeps popping back up there... "In later times she represented Justice". Putting aside the hoaky new-agey crap like the WiccanWeb [1], where are you people getting your information? An academic source, I hope. --Glengordon01 14:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I've asked User:Firefly07 to cite the claims about inhaling demons and representing justice.

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Well it's been a while. Nobody's cited a thing. Guess I'm going to take a leap and do more deletes until a source can be found.--Glengordon01 00:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Christianity?

I've seen a few references to a Christian angel named Vanth. Do I have the name wrong, or is there another Vanth? It could've been Hebrew, now that I think of it, but unlikely. I'm probably off my rocker... Sir Chickie 00:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if the name is related to Vatican. Apparently the Vatican is an Etruscan name for the hill which was used by Etruscan prophets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Indiansummermh (talk • contribs) 17:41, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Demon?

I changed the term referring to her on the page on Orcus from demon to entity, since I thought she wasn't referred to as such in this article (turns out she is and I misread it). However, it seems not quite right to use the word demon to refer to her. Despite that word's origin as meaning spirit is has taken on a Christian meaning with malevolent overtones and seems not quite right to apply to non-Christian/pre-Christian figures. Perhaps we should use the term daemon or entity instead? Ehgarrick (talk) 01:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)