Talk:Unlimited atonement

Redirect

I redirected this page to Atonement; we can change this when there's more to add. KHM03 14:12, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Question

The following question was asked (inappropriately) in the text of the article by User:74.195.235.211. I have moved it here for comments.

(A Request: Would someone who understands the position of unlimited atonement explain in this section what those who hold it specifically believe about what Christ did on the cross so that He is now able to "offer a substitutionary atonement to all"? There's still some confusion on this topic concerning that. Seeing that this position says "He died on behalf of all men" but "does not pay for the penalty for those who deny Him" - it would be very useful. Thanks.)

--Flex (talk|contribs) 15:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Majority Position?

The author indicates that unlimited atonement has been the majority view. Yet while this might currently be the majority view amongst Christians in the Western world, it seems that the majority of Protestants over the course of church history have maintained the doctrine of limited atonement (Lutherans, Presbyterians, many Baptists, Congregationalists, Reformed Churches, etc.) And so it seems like the author(s) of this article may be presenting the view to which he, she, or they hold in a way that bolsters unlimited atonement over and against limited atonement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.145.16.78 (talk) 14:38, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

"However it is the position of a majority of professing Christians that the atonement was held as unlimited by most of the early Church Fathers (ECF)" This statement needs citation and is of dubious worth. Of what value is it that "the majority of professing Christians" attest to a certain element of history? What do historians of the early church have to say on this matter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.88.112.129 (talk) 04:36, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Non-Protestant Christian views

The article begins by saying that this is the majority doctrine in Protestant Christianity, yet gives no mention of other Christian churches that accept it, most notably the Roman Catholic Church. I propose editing the wording for the sake of inclusiveness and completion. 2607:EA00:104:1C00:69B8:8D15:14AB:23D4 (talk) 16:30, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

"DEAD LINK"

At the end of the "Historical background" section of the article there is a broken link and someone has put the text "DEAD LINK" in the article after the broken link.

I'm not sure what should have happened here, but I don't think appending a link with "DEAD LINK" is the correct action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.58.126 (talk) 16:34, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hebrews 9:28

I was surprised not to see Hebrews 9:28 quoted either for or against "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. (KJV)" - my emphasis - as this has been a sensitive issue in the wording of modern Eucharistic Prayers. 2A00:23C6:148A:9B01:3194:C94C:9B8A:E216 (talk) 13:00, 27 February 2023 (UTC)