Talk:University of Missouri System

University of Missouri redirected to University of Missouri–Columbia

I made a page move, perhaps a bit hastily, after finding that almost all of the links to the page "University of Missouri" should have gone to the "University of Missouri-Columbia" page. Also many other University systems use this format, including, The University of Nebraska, The University of Arkansas, and the well-developed page for The University of Texas. Thoughts on this move? Grey Wanderer | Talk 10:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

There are many examples of the generic name redirecting to the system page, as well. Indiana University, University of Illinois, University of Alaska, University of Colorado, University of Hawaii, University of Massachusetts, University of North Carolina, etc.

I'm sure these universities have the same problem as Missouri, that they're often referring the the flagship campus rather than the system, but it's not appropriate to assume that's always the case. Once arriving on the system page, you can then click on the appropriate link for whatever campus. Whereas, if you're redirected to the flagship campus article, you're going to assume that's the correct campus but that's not necessarily true. When there is a dominant campus in the system, I understand the desire to point the generic term to that campus article, but out of respect for the other campuses in the system, I prefer that the generic term redirect to the system article.—Lazytiger 15:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

It was the links in wikipedia itself that convinced me to do it in the first place, of all the pages that linked to University of Missouri every single one was in reference to the Columbia campus, except for on the schools pages themselves. There still is that problem kinda, I need to go through and clean out whats linking to University of Missouri System. Grey Wanderer | Talk 17:41, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, another thing, sorry for multiple post, When the term "University of Missouri" is used by the media, they mean the Columbia campus, if another campus is meant, it is almost always specified (-St. Louist, -Kansas City). As far as I've seen that pattern goes on for public conversation as well, even facebook does the same thing naming the main campus "Missouri" and the other campuses Mo St. Louis, Mo Kansascity. Grey Wanderer | Talk 17:48, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not disputing that University of Missouri is often used in reference to the Columbia campus. All I'm saying is, I think it shows more respect for the system as a whole when "University of Missouri" redirects to the system article. If you want to disagree based on usage, well then, I'm not going to make a big stink about it. But I wouldn't be surprised if other people feel more strongly.—Lazytiger 00:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to have to agree with Grey Wanderer. For the most part, when people refer to the University of Missouri, they mean the Columbia campus. Other branches are more commonly know by their respective city, (University of Missouri-Rolla would be refered to as simply Rola or UMR). In fact, most school along these lines try to stay away from association with the system so that they may build their own credit. The redirect is the best solution to this and should be there.

The name of the University of Missouri–Columbia has been changed to the University of Missouri.[1]Grey Wanderer | Talk 19:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The official name has not changed. The curators agreed to allow Mizzou to use the name "University of Missouri" for recruiting purposes, but not offical business. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.15 (talk) 21:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

It appears that the "real" full name of the university continues to be "University of Missouri–Columbia". However, today's ruling apparently allows Mizzou to unapologetically refer to itself as simply the "University of Missouri" for marketing purposes. I think we ought to leave redirects as they are for now: University of Missouri goes to "–Columbia". Let's see if this sorta-kinda renaming sticks.—Lazytiger (Talk | contribs) 02:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Northwest's Failed Attempt to Join the University of Missouri

Regarding the edits that I just deleted: First, the statement that all the campuses are south of the Missouri River is wrong—Columbia is north of the Missouri River. Second, the UMKC and UMSL campuses are just barely south, so it's not like there's some sort of imbalance in the north-south distribution of campuses as is implied. Third, while it is interesting (and I was previously unaware) that NW Missouri State almost became part of the system, the fact that it didn't happen lessens its importance quite a bit. However, it is of note, and I would like to reintroduce it to the article in some way that is less jarring. What I mean by that is, I hate articles that are very generalized and/or short, and then all of the sudden come out of left field with some random bit of obscure information. But that must be reconciled with the fact that some random information is still worthy of inclusion; I'd just like to find a better segue. That mostly intails adding a lot more info to the article to achive a better "evenness of informational depth." A really good start here would be info about any other campus aquisitions the UM System has attempted in the past.—Lazytiger 03:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

You are correct about Columbia being north of the river. I pulled the reference from the planning documents but the word was misleading.

http://www.nwmissouri.edu/uminfo/Comprehensive%20Merger%20Document.pdf page 4

None the less there's a ton of stuff out there about this. It has been extensively in the news. A simple google shows numerous articles all across the state:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=University+of+Missouri+northwest+merger&btnG=Google+Search

Here's some selected articles. There's a lot more.

http://www.umsystem.edu/ums/departments/ur/spectrum/0402/story04.shtml

http://www.nwmissouri.edu/uminfo/

http://www.senate.mo.gov/04INFO/BILLS/SB755.htm

http://atmizzou.missouri.edu/feb04/MUAAstand.htm

Americasroof 04:11, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for all the sources. I was being hasty last night and I apologize. Forget about all the blah, blah, blah I wrote up above. Your contribution is interesting and perfectly relevant to the article.—Lazytiger 14:08, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

: Thanks for your comments (and catching an obvious mistake). I tried to rewrite the section so it is clearer on the north/south battle. If citations are needed the senate link cited above shows the sunset clause and the comprehensive merger document shows the argument for doctorates north/south of the river. Americasroof 15:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

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