Talk:Unbroken (Katharine McPhee album)

Writing credits

Kevin87, where are you getting the writing credits for the track listing songs at this point given that the label has not officially released the information and the tommy2 website only has the track listing? I'm wondering if some of those are original research and/or if you are making unsupported leaps?Ducold (talk) 02:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

You can see them here : http://www.katharine-mcphee.org/ --Maxime9232 (talk) 18:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

New January release date

The album release has been moved to January. I suppose we should discuss whether this page should continue to exist or not, especially given the request to delete it earlier with the reasoning that it wasn't close to the release date and there's wasn't enough coverage of it by 3rd party sources. Ducold (talk) 00:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I would still vote to Delete this being even farther in the future while there are no independent reliable sources to pass Wikipedia:Notability. Aspects (talk) 19:57, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

If the consensus ends up being to delete, I would propose saving the information in some way so it can be resurrected in January, because there's a lot of information here that people worked on. I think I'm too biased to vote though. Ducold (talk) 21:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Reliable sources

I was reversed on an edit I made removing information from non-reliable sources. Per WP:BRD, I am bringing the discussion here. Tommy2.net is a non-reliable source and all information from the website should be deleted. From WP:RS: "Articles should rely on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Tommy2.net does not have a reputation for fact-checking. From their website they get information "From various sources such as Publicists, Record Labels, New Media Promotion Companies, Artists and street reporters." It looks like they have no editorial oversight and they are simply passing along publicists reports, which may or may not be true.

The original date and title would be notable, but a one sentence mention in an article is just a trivial mention and no mention of the original source. I can find no other information for the title "Long Way From Home" as a title, so I find it doubtful this was ever the name of the album. Being the first to release the tracklist is not a notable event, see WP:LEAK, and now that other, better sources have it, we should use those sources. The change in release dates could be considered notable but we have the same information from two better sources, McPhee and Verve Records.

The information about the Target deluxe edition comes from a fan forum and was not even addressed by the anon editor who reversed me. Aspects (talk) 20:00, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's that important, but McPhee's Verve publicist did say on the fan forum that "Long Way From Home" was the original title and it got changed; also, Billboard shows the original title as well and hasn't seen fit to change it yet. Along with that, Amazon originally indicated LWFH as the original title before they changed it, so I do think it existed as a title. On the other hand, I'm not sure it's important enough for an encyclopedic entry if it's not felt that there's a reliable enough source for it. The Verve publicist also was the one that said that Target got the exclusive rights to the deluxe edition. That was posted on the fan forum as well. I don't know how editors feel about the legitimacy of it, though we fans know the contact is real. I suppose the Target thing can be left off until Target puts it on their website. Ducold (talk) 23:44, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Well two weeks later, with no objections about the Tommy2.net sources, I am going to remove the information with an edit summary to see the discussion here. Aspects (talk) 23:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Question about definition of a single

I find that I'm a bit confused about the meaning of an official single. A new version of Terrified has been released that's a duet between McPhee and actor Zach Levi. It's been streamed on EW.com and available for sale on iTunes and Amazon as of today. A music video of this version of the song will premiere on Vevo.com on Friday. However, in all the announcements by McPhee and the label Verve, they haven't called this a single and there's been no release date for radio announced. Fans want to call this an official second single and some have attempted to update the McPhee's Wikipedia pages to say so, but I've been thinking that if it's not called a single and there's no release to radio as of yet, than it shouldn't be listed as the official second single (though perhaps maybe a promotional single). But after reading the Wikipedia definition of a music single, I'm not so sure. What is the consensus on something like this? Ducold (talk) 02:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)