Talk:Tundish

Metal working

The metal-working topic is specific and derived from the general topic. It would be misleading to state simply that a tundish belongs only to the metalworking topic. —Centrx→talk • 20:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Metal working is where Tundish is most widely seen. I think this page needs development in that direction. Iarpitsingla (talk) 12:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Maybe, but IMHO the page should be split, with the material perhaps absorbed into other articles. A metal-working Tundish appears to be a form of large jug or sauce-boat. A plumbing Tundish, required as a safety item in UK domestic unvented (so pressurised) hot water systems, is essentially a downwards pipe with a shrouded air-gap through which fault water can be seen if flowing. Similar things can be used for (non-fault) rain- and/or grey- water, but I don't know what they are called. 94.30.84.71 (talk) 20:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Dictionary entries

I dispute maintaining dictionary entries, per WP:NOTDICT. I understand that the term "tundish" has other meanings, but this article is only about the metalworking meaning of the term. If others feel that other meanings of the term should remain in Wikipedia, then please make a new article for each of the meanings. Wizard191 (talk) 03:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Two comments on that: Firstly it's under "Tundish" not disambiguated, so our default position is that it's about them in general, not one specific need. There's a balance (i.e. no obvious priority) between contemporary casting and plumbing uses.

Secondly, etymology is still interesting to founders. This word has a very obvious etymology from brewing and I see no benefit to losing this short para from this article, no mattter what its overall scope. Wiktionary isn't an exclusive place for content - we can justify having the origins in both places.

Ideally I'd see this article as keeping the broad scope and including history, casting and plumbing. All three are strongly related - the basic function of a tundish is unchanged, no matter what its contents. They're all also fairly minor uses within their fields, so there's no need to split the article solely on volume. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:51, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I understand having the etymology here, however, the plumbing topic, is not part of the etymology therefore I think it should still be removed per WP:NOTDICT: "Encyclopedia articles should begin with a good definition and description of one topic (or a few largely or completely synonymous or otherwise highly related topics), but the article should provide other types of information about that topic as well. An encyclopedic definition is more concerned with encyclopedic knowledge (facts) rather than linguistic concerns." Essentially, there should only be one topic per article. Wizard191 (talk) 14:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

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Cultural significance

In James Joyce's novel A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, the historic use of the word 'tundish' in Ireland as a synonym for 'funnel' is the subject of conversation in what might be the most well-known scene in the book. The scene had a major impact on cultural life in Ireland, as can be seen in e.g. Seamus Heaney's long poem 'Station Island', where the Nobel Laureate proposes a new Irish holy day: 'the Feast of the Holy Tundish'. Outside of the arts, the scene is often referenced in a wide variety of contexts, as in e.g. this interview with lexicographer T. P. Dolan or this recipe for a sloe gin cocktail in the Irish Independent. A major Irish cultural prize is the 'Tundish Prize' for this exact reason.

The ChemEurope encyclopedia sees fit to briefly mention this cultural significance in its entry for 'tundish'. Should Wikipedia not do the same? 78.145.59.33 (talk) 13:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)