Talk:Tommie Frazier

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I added a few more references, and cleaned it up some. --Crash Underride 06:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi everyone, I will work very hard to add all the references where there are places listed with the July 2012 citations. I have all these references, but Tommie Frazier played for Nebraska in the early 1990s - which means that a lot of the articles from back then are taken down off the web. I have the citations in books and magazines. I am working with Eagles 24/7 right now to help me with accutately citing the off-line sources - as it throws me. Still, I will do my very best that I possibly can. This is the challenge with picking Tommie Frazier. When I worked on Aaron Murray's Wikipedia biography for the 2011 Georgia Bulldog football season, the sources were all around on the internet. With Frazier, I don't have that advantage. Rod Hayes (talk) 15:31, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I've long said that the biggest hole in world knowledge is information that was published in the 5-10 years prior to the rise of the Internet. It can be very difficult to find information on topics from the late 1980s-early 1990s, while earlier and later topics are well-covered. Dementia13 (talk) 12:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Also, I am thinking about what Dementia13 said. I may just create a "Legacy" section very much in the same way it's handled with Reggie Ball's Wiki biography. That way, Frazier's departing words can be appropriately placed there as that is how Huskers will remember Tommie (also his No. 15 was retired, extra details that can be thrown in there) after winning two national championships. Recall that Reggie Ball - as per his legacy section - will be (sadly, because Ball was actually great for Yellow Jacket nation) remembered for failing courses at Georgia Tech in the fall of 2006 and missing his last bowl game as the Yellow Jackets lost the game miserably.Rod Hayes (talk) 21:14, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

That's a better way to handle it. Remember: this is an encyclopedia. It's common for an athlete to give glory to God following a victory, and as such is not noteworthy for inclusion here. It becomes more notable when given the context that it's how Nebraska fans remember him. BTW, you can't use nicknames like "Huskers" in the article, you have to spell out the whole word. As the author of several Buccaneers articles, I feel your pain on that one. Dementia13 (talk) 12:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Dementia13. I am composing the "legacy" section inside my laptop. It's not ready yet. Also, user Eagles 24/7 has been helping me too. I am not familiar with using offline sources, but it's time to learn. Frazier's Jesus quote is fully listed in Bob Schaller's book "Touchdown Tommie" on page 132. Additionally, the Tom Lemming Top 101 recruiting class of 1992 is listed in my 1992 Athlons Nebraska & the Big Eight College Football Preview magazine on page 131. Eagles 24/7 showed me a cite method that is inside the {} signs. I have to read up on that to put it to use - and I will. Got to go check up on some teacher job openings right now; trying to get me a new teacher job. Also, I will work harder in the future to write everything according to Wiki guidelines. I used to write for the Cedartown Standard newspaper under the direction of its editor Jim Penney, but I see there are differences with the way we write on Wikipedia versus for a newspaper, etc. Rod Hayes (talk) 15:11, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, Dementia13. I have finally learned how to correctly list/cite sources besides simply placing a copied & pasted URL in between the two symbols of < ref > and < / ref >. I am finally getting somewhere. The bad news is that I have to go back to every project I've ever worked on the last two years where I had to use a reference. Today/tonight, I worked on adding two citations correctly scored with author, title, and publication on two different biographies. So restoration is under way. I will get them all taken care of.Rod Hayes (talk) 01:54, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, it's done, Dementia13. Atleast this is my short term solution for the "legacy" section. I want it to say more such as adding extra comments like his jersey #15 being retired, etc. Right now though, I have about 101 references I have listed on different Wikipedia biographies that are just pure URLs without any listing of author, title, and source or web site that I have input on Wikipedia over the last two years. I must begin my clean up of all of that immediately. I have church tonight, but I will begin swiftly to correct every reference I've added with Cite Web, Cite News, and Cite Journal citations to every article that I've assisted or made. I've got to clean up my mess. Talk with y'all later.Rod Hayes (talk) 21:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Presently, I am working on the "legacy" section inside a draft of my laptop. Should have it completed soon.Rod Hayes (talk) 17:20, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

OK. I feel that the legacy section is complete now. Also, I have worked diligently on the citations looking for evidence of every subject I've covered within Frazier's biography. Rod Hayes (talk) 23:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Question/comment on the article: The "Personal" section in this article is missing about 5 words. :) The focus of this article, naturally, is Frazier's time in college. And yet there's no hint, anywhere in the article, of what he was doing in college in the first place. Did he graduate? With what degree? Again, it just needs a couple of words somewhere to indicate it. Katerine459 (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2013 (UTC)