Talk:Timothy Treadwell

Categories

This page is categorized under American agnostics and People with Bipolar Disorder. Now where are the citations for these? --AirLiner (talk) 19:36, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Cremation

He is cremated and his ashes where scattered at Katmai National Park, according to Find a Grave. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:4701:C4A0:80DF:DCF7:3E70:F544 (talk) 21:10, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Is this a joke?

I think somebody edited and added that Tim tried out for a role in Cheers and was turned down. That he overdosed on heroine and cocaine, and other things that seem quite odd. I read this a while ago and don't remember this details. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragon1604 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The overdose is described in Treadwell's book "Among Grizzlies" and the role in Cheers is referred to in "Grizzly Man" by Treadwell's father. I can't vouch for the accuracy though. 71.193.243.8 (talk) 03:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

He talks at length about losing the role of Sam's assistant bartender (on Cheers) to Woody Harrelson on the Discovery Channel documentary "Grizzly Man", also about his subsequent drug abuse following the decline of his acting career... He appears to be suffering from classic Manic-Depression during his time in the park, very weepy and melancholy about his life and relationships one minute and very animated and elated the next, professing his love for the bears and nature as almost a stream of conciousness monologue... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.73.79.254 (talk) 19:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree with your observations, but I believe manic depression is characterized by depressions and manic periods that last for long periods, such as weeks or longer. I'm unsure what causes sudden mood changes. -Lciaccio (talk) 03:47, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Not certain how any of this can be verified because the people you probably want to talk to aren't there anymore. I was in Alaska right after Treadwell's death, and, of course, we were all hypothesizing why this bear would attack them which is quite out of nature for that brown bear. Being the wife of a field ecologist/marine biologist who pioneered the biological computer simulation program, my spontaneous utterance was: "She was on her period! That's why!" When you're applying for hiking permits in Alaska and US parks in California, women don't get any if they are having or expecting their periods. A few weeks after the final autopsy reports were completed, rumor from the forestry service was that Treadwell's girlfriend had, in fact, been expecting her menses. Hope this info might be able to dump up some leads for you guys. Borderbumble (talk) 11:57, 26 February 2020 (UTC) BorderbumbleBorderbumble (talk) 11:57, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Audio status

Can we confirm that Jewel Palovak still has the audio, or has she destroyed it? Coolgamer (talk) 00:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I recall reading somewhere (this was a couple of years ago) that she said she did not intend to follow Herzog's advice to destroy it, though she was following his advice not to ever listen to it herself. If I remember correctly, she said she'd locked it away in a safe deposit box. 12.155.58.181 (talk) 00:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

The audio has been made public. http://www.ogrish.tv/playXXXXXX.php?vid=1083 --Janwo ^Disc./_Mail 21:49, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what you think your link is to, but it is not audio of Timothy Treadwell. IT IS A PORN SITE. I added a bunch of x's to the middle, so it won't take people there, in case it just needs fixed. Anyway, that isn't too cool.

Contradiction In article about six minute "death" Tape

The 5th sentence in this article states, and I quote, "An audio recording of the attack survived and has been released to the public". A citation points to Werner's film-WRONG! The tape is in the hands of Jewel Pavlovak, which is recorded in Werner Herzog's film, BUT it has Never been released to my knowledge. It is a 6 minute audio clip from Treadwell's video camera, which has been reported in this article about Treadwell. The 2nd to last sentence under the heading of "Death" states, and I quote, "The tape is now the property of Jewel Palovak, and has not been released". Or "released to the public", whatever. We may hear a word or Possibly two words of it at the end of Werner's film when he is talking to Jewel telling her about it, But I Know we don't hear even 5 seconds- Never mind all 6 minutes! It is highly doubtful, If you watch the last 15 minutes of Werner's film, that Jewel would release this 6 minute audio clip to the public. PLEASE CORRECT this article as there are two Directly contradictory statements, And the 1st one is Incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.170.111.187 (talk) 20:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Relax, it was vandalism, someone changed "has not" to "has". It's changed back now. Mike R (talk) 20:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Saving the world.

• This is not a forum. Personal opinions, character attacks, speculation without citation is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Such behavior is considered graffiti. Suggest removal of this individual's rant.--74.235.39.151 (talk) 21:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

• Seconded for removal. Everyunitone (talk) 11:42, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Done.

Knee jerk reaction?

In the following section-

Charlie Russell, who has studied bears for 42 years and raised them and lived with them in Kamchatka, Russia for a decade, wrote a lengthy response in which he criticized both Treadwell's lack of basic safety precautions such as pepper spray and electric fences (but not his close contact with bears) as well as the predictable, knee-jerk reaction to his death. He is also critical of the film Grizzly Man.[5]

Is the use of 'knee-jerk' encyclopedic? 86.141.182.225 (talk) 21:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

External link description

Just followed this external link: "Bear Activist and Companion Mauled to Death in Alaska" — Associated Press story giving detailed factual debunking of the whole Treadwell myth, dated May 8, 2004, quoted by respected wild life organization.

It's not really the AP story. It's a couple of lines of the AP story and then someone's personal arguments with the perceived myth. The "debunking" is unverified and emotionally over-wrought in a way that probably detracts from its credibility, and its points are made better elsewhere. Suggest deleting it, or at least changing the description. 65.96.173.41 (talk) 20:48, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Name change

Shouldn't this article discuss how and why his name changed from Timothy Dexter to Timothy Treadwell? I was curious about that as I was reading the article, but the oddity was never addressed. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC))

In the Warner Hartzog documentary, his parents state that he changed it because it sounded better as a stage name for his acting career. It is a family name, as they confirm. I have read from an unconfirmed source that it is from his mother's side. -Lciaccio (talk) 03:52, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. The article should address this. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 07:38, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

I added a sourced sentence, since nobody else has. Muzilon (talk) 04:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Where is Hessel?

The first paragraph states that Treadwell and his fiance lived in Hessel. Where the heck is Hessel? Hessel, Michigan? I know of no other Hessel. Vandemark (talk) 00:20, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Broken reference

Reference 8 is broken. Can someone who knows what they're doing find a source? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.10.193.198 (talk) 07:30, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Citation needed?

Why is there a [citation needed] tag at several places? That information is told in the film and apparently some of it in Treadwell's autobiography as well. Bever (talk) 16:19, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Diagram

The diagram is labelled as such: Diagram of attack site showing positions of bodies. (I added the bold emphasis.) However, I do not see any notations showing the positions of the bodies. Am I missing something? If the notations are indeed there, they certainly are not clear or obvious. Does anyone know? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 07:33, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Agreed. I have removed the problematic text in the caption. Hoof Hearted (talk) 17:21, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

So sad

I listened too the audio it was so sad I hope nothing ever happens too anyone again. 2601:602:CE00:1E40:6488:8369:473B:32BE (talk) 01:31, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

The audio online is not the real audio. The REAL audio is lost media (meaning it can't be seen). Only the Fish and Wildlife officers, as well as the grizzly Man director and Park Rangers, have heard the audio. It is still a tragedy. 2603:8090:1504:278A:F6FC:E429:C41A:E6AA (talk) 12:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

NPS Report

There are more details about the attack in the The NPS report. Notably, the time of day of the attack was likely around 2pmADT and it was likely raining. RealSquirrel (talk) 05:51, 3 October 2024 (UTC)