Talk:Tiburcio Vásquez

Tiburcio Vasquez was a Chief of The Costanoan Rumsen Carmel Tribe of California.

Tiburcio Vasquez was a Chief of The Costanoan Rumsen Carmel Tribe of California from 1834 to 1875.

When Fr. Tomas Estenaga was the administrator at Mission Dolores in San Francisco, there was an illness that affected the women more then the men. According to the statistics, about half the women died. The young men were not able to find eligible women suitable for marriage. This caused a problem with the older couples, as the women would take off with the younger men. To solve this problem, Father Tomas arranged for the young men to travel to other places where they might be needed as workers, and also to find a wife.

In the summer of 1834 Tiburcio, son of Sumu Chief of the Chiefs from the San Francisco Area, left for Monterey. At this time Monterey was the Capital of Alta California. Tiburcio Arrived at Monterey as part of group of workers sent to Monterey by Fr. Tomes, the priest at Mission Dolores, to work on projects at the capital.

Upon arriving at Monterey, Tiburcio met Maria Del Rosario; "Rosadio", great-granddaughter of Simon Francisco, "Chief Chanjay". They were married on April 27, 1834 in the Mission church of San Carlos. Being the son of Sumu, Tiburcio had a royal aura of authority about him. Shortly after their marriage Tiburcio called to the remaining members of Chanjay's people and convinced them to follow him to Mission Santa Cruz.

Tiburcio was an excellent marksman with a rifle , pistol or Bow and arrow. At Rodeos in Monterey it was said he could ride at a full gallop on his horse and shoot from under the neck of the horse while positioning his body on the opposite side of the horse. He used a typical Rumsen bow which was a re-curve bow similar to Mongolian bows and unlike any other tribes.

Vasquez ronbbed numerous Wells Fargo stages and buried gold throughout California. Tiburico hoped to amass enough gold to raise an army and take back the stolen Indian and Spanish lands owned by his tribe. The land claims were throughout the central coast of California from San Francisco to Monterey and had been taken by the Gold prospectors, the U.S.Government and the Railroads.

(For More Info See The tribes website at http://www.costanoanrumsen.org/tribal-leaders.html ) BobB427 (talk) 19:15, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Birthday

Was he born April 10 or 11, and shouldn't his infobox have his actual birthday, not his "feast day"? 71.226.144.42 (talk) 05:03, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Request Edit A

• Please add under "Places named for Vásquez" a hyperlink to the article: 21-Mile House.
• Then move the orphan tag on the 21-Mile House article.

Greg Henderson (talk) 19:59, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Reply 3-NOV-2023

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• The Berkeley Department of Natural Resources Division of Parks reference located in the 21-Mile House article that acts as the source for the claim of a connection to Vasquez contains a dead URL, and cannot be verified.

Regards,  Spintendo  23:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Spintendo Thanks, the correct claim of a connection to Vasquez is located here: Sorry, for the confusion. Please add under "Places named for Vásquez" a hyperlink to the article: 21-Mile House. Then remove the "orphan" tag on the 21-Mile House article. Greg Henderson (talk) 16:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

References

Introduction nationality

The short introduction gives his nationality as Californian, but california was part of mexico when he was born so shouldn't the it say Mexican? Josiahtables (talk) 08:48, 9 January 2024 (UTC)