Talk:Thuringia

Meiningen's population wrong

According to Meiningen's wiki page it has only 21,423 inhabitants (2011). It certainly wasn't higher than 40,000 in 2005. Gearstick (talk) 15:58, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

the modern state of Thuringia was enlarged in 1946.
With what? Erfurt and Schmalkalden came to Thuringia already in 1944. I can't find anything else. Fransvannes 15:40 Feb 13, 2003 (UTC)

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• Thuringia (and the neighboring state of Saxony) was also the major "stomping-ground" of the family of composer Johann Sebastian Bach. Sources indicate that the Bach family returned to this area after residing in provinces which lay much farther East. There were supposedly contact with Hungarians and other Eastern Europeans.

In my own experience: My father's family also came to Bavaria (Nuremberg) via Thuringia and Saxony. Our family name is Weissflach, but there were other variations which were consistent with a migration from the East - the same route followed by the Bach family as it returned to its roots from further East. Variations of the name may be found on graves in Leipzig, Dresden and Chemnitz. Some of the variations: Weiszflug (a somewhat Slavic spelling, with the "z"), Weissflug, Weisflog and others.

In ancient times, the Scythians migrated into this part of Europe, orginating from the Caucasus Moutains near the Black Sea. Upon reaching Europe, the migration of Scythians split near the region which is now Poland. One branch went North into Poland and Scandinavia. The other branch spread West, terminating in Thuringia. The genome of the Scythians may have permeated and assimilated into the later Germanic peoples of the region quite directly.

The city of Gera in Thuringia has an ancient past; The city appears in an atlas of Greek & Roman influence in ancient Europe - but no other towns appeared on the map of that time-period. Gera was represented almost as an outpost. It was the farthest and most remote city on the map, but of course this only represented Greek & Roman influence.

The name Gera is not German. Suspecting a Roman influence, I looked up the word in Latin, but this produced null results. Next, I looked up the word in a Greek dictionary: G=Gamma, E=Epsilon, R=Rho, A=Alpha... I found a word which was virtually identical. Gera means similar to "prize" or "privilege". It would seem then that my assumptions were in fact somewhat true about Gera being an outpost. It would also seem to fit the name, insinuating that the settlement of Gera was privilege of sorts, perhaps as the result of a treaty between the newcomers and the resident Frankish tribes of Thuringia. -F.J. Weissflach; 06.01.2004-

What means this? I live in Gera, wrote an article about ist history and never heard of such stuff. Gera - a Greek word? I know that the name is quite old (before the Slavic immigration) but I alwais heard it came from the Germanic Ger Aha = "wedge river" or "scree river"! Gera ... Greek ... The atlas you speak of ... is it old or new? --slg 19:09, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

PS: 1) Why do you call Gera a "small city" - it has more than 100,000 inhabitants! 2) Kann man Deutsch mit dir reden? --slg 19:09, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I've merged in Saxon Duchies

An anon wrote an article, Saxon Duchies which I've merged into the text of the history section of this article. It includes a list of the duchies, which is slightly different than the list currently in the article. Someone knowledgeable about the subject needs to fix this. JesseW 05:44, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm not an expert, but I've been doing some research, and just created an article for Saxe-Weimar (pre-Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach). I hope to also create articles for Saxe-Eisenach and Saxe-Jena. I made the spelling of all the Saxon duchies consistent on 'Saxe-', and added links to their articles for the ones that were not already linked. The Saxon duchies were a rather fluid set of territories belonging to the extended Wettin family that were divided up and re-combined repeatedly, so that, to me anyway, it is very difficult to give a coherent account of their histories. - Dalbury 17:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Someone kindly linked my Saxe-Weimar article to the German and Spanish equivalents. There is a great deal of material on the Ernestine (Saxe-) duchies in German and Spanish. I'll start with the Spanish version, as my Spanish is better than my German. - Dalbury 19:35, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I fixed it up a bit. I removed Schwarzburg and Reuss from the list of Ernestine Saxon duchies, since they didn't belong to those -- they just happened to be in the same general area. If anyone wants a complete list of the Ernestine duchies, there is one at de:Ernestinische Herzogtümer. --Chl 14:52, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Polish flag

what's with the polish flag? has this been vandalised? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.188.33 (talk) 18:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

NO, Thuringian flag looks like Poland's flag —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.240.26 (talk) 19:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Hitler's Bomb

I added quite a bit of context to what was an otherwise unexplained reference to a book about a supposed nuclear detonation in Thuringia. The book "Hitler's Bomb" has been cast into serious doubt by soil testing at the site that shows no evidence of contamination that would be associated with this supposed event. Honestly, however, this is such a red herring that perhaps the entire section should come out of the article. Ftjrwrites (talk) 16:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

1945

Thuringa was liberated from the US army and traded for West-Berlin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darktrym (talk • contribs) 19:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

former states

it would be interesting to know what former states were merged to make the free state. Tinynanorobots (talk) 16:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

don't get the positions in this table

5. Gotha 57.256 48.376 47.045 Gotha 6. Eisenach 50.059 44.442 37.858 independent city 7. Nordhausen 42.018 45.633 43.781 Nordhausen

Why is Eisenach on place 6? Nordhausen and Gotha are both bigger! Now as well as in 2005 (last number-column). BTW: If it is an importance rating Eisenach needs to be higher than Gotha (Econ and Tourisim wise). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.28.70.76 (talk) 12:13, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Move

This article should be moved to Free State of Thuringia -Ilhador- (talk) 00:20, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

potential resource

"Germany's regional disparities fuel neo-Nazi culture; During a train trip across Germany, a Monitor correspondent noted regional differences that make neo-Nazi culture appealing in the east and alien in the west. A murder last week exposed the existence neo-Nazi cells in the country." by Isabelle de Pommereau, Christian Science Monitor November 17, 2011, excerpt ...

"Rock for Germany" is a rock and heavy metal concert that takes place every year in the nearby town of Gera, about 50 miles from Halle – or that's the official version. In reality, it is one of Europe’s biggest neo-Nazi festivals. That weekend, I found out later, it attracted a record 4,000 participants. The men I saw must have spent the night at the concert.

See de:Rock für Deutschland 99.181.153.29 (talk) 06:12, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

District map

The numbers on the district map don't correspond to the numbers in the table of districts. Also, the map itself is outdated and should be superseded by File:Thüringen Kreise (nummeriert).svg. Unless there are objections I'll modify the table numbers to correspond to the map. Huon (talk) 21:19, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Go ahead and change that. I was hopelessly confused in trying to look up districts on the west side of the district, as the map is currently useless for that. Nerfer (talk) 20:38, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Did Goethe work at the University of Jena?

The introduction claims that Goethe worked at the Unversity of Jena. Are there any sources supporting this? I know he is responsible for some changes at the university (he's supposed to have suggested the creation of the botanical garden), but I thought that this was in his role as minister for education, and not as an academic or administrator at the university. GroupCohomologist (talk) 20:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Is Karl Marx' connection to Thuringia significant?

This article recently acquired a list of notable persons with significant links to Thuringia. In particular, Karl Marx is listed, as he received his Ph.D. from the University of Jena. At first sight this means he should obviously be on the list, but a closer inspection of the facts gives a different impression. According to the article on Marx, he did all his thesis work in Berlin but was concerned that the conservative Berlin faculty would reject his thesis for political reasons: so he submitted it to the more liberal university in Jena instead, and took the degree in absentia. This was his only link to Thuringia. To me it is so tenuous that he should be removed from the list.

Caveat: This is a politically sensitive issue, and related to the question of whether the Friedrich-Schiller-Universität should display the Marx bust which featured so prominently in GDR days. Some people might feel that my suggestion reeks of triumphalism over the fall of the GDR; and in the light of current political developments in Thuringia it will be interesting to see what happens to the Marx bust in the future. GroupCohomologist (talk) 21:25, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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