Talk:There's a Place

Credits?

There is no 'Credit' section as there are for the other songs on 'Please Please Me'. 64.184.0.174 03:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)Chase

Credits now in place. Again, as in “Love Me Do”, I don’t think George Harrison sings on this, but MacDonald gives him a credit. Any views on this anyone?--Patthedog 13:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I’m wrong here. Just listened to some outtakes and it’s clear Harrison joins McCartney to do the Aaaah’s behind Lennon during the “like I love only you” bit. Very dodgy BTW though!--Patthedog 17:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

IP comment

Quite a lot of hogwash talked in the opening paragraph here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.213.233 (talk) 00:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Harmonies

Removed the parenthetical "Lennon low, McCartney high", as the information is precisely stated a few sentences earlier. --Daveler16 (talk) 05:09, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Read through

Tkbrett: Further to discussion at my talk page, I skimmed through the article, leaving some detailed comments with edits as I went. If you disagree with anything, no probs – feel free to change (you're the one who's really focusing in on the article, not me).

I zoned out slightly in the Recording section: does it really need all that detail about specific instruments, session times, individual engineers? I'm more used to working on the Beatles' mid- and late-period recordings, where the instruments, the use of studio space, effects, sound creation, engineer's input, etc, are all important to the track. The mention of Langham and Lincoln here, for instance, seems a bit, well ... boring. <= Feel free to ignore all that as well, of course! Cheers, JG66 (talk) 20:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

JG66: I really appreciate your help, especially with the prose improvements. Any schmuck can look through a book's index and add trivia, but there's a lot more to making it presentable and interesting to read.

I take your point, re:the recording details. The name of the guy who fetched tea for George Martin is probably not especially important here. I've reworked that section to include a bit more (interesting) information while cutting the extraneous bits. The reception section includes MacDonald's comment about Lennon's voice sounding hoarse, so it seemed important to mention his cold in the recording section. I also included Pollack's info regarding the rhythm and bass being revised mid-session. Tkbrett (✉) 01:20, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:There's a Place/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Shoot for the Stars (talk · contribs) 17:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Since the Beatles are my favorite band of all time. I am going to review this underrated song. Expect comments by the end of the week. Shoot for the Stars 💫 (talk) 17:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Note: Please forgive me if I get any British words or dates wrong. I'm American and am used to using the m/y/d formula and spelling way differently...

Infobox and lead

• If the song was released as a single in the United States in 1964, why is under "song" and not "single" in the infobox?
  • This is the bane of all early-Beatles songs. Some tracks were released as a single in both the UK and US, while others were released in only one market. In this case, I opted to not include the "single" designation because the song appeared on one UK album and two US albums before the B-side appeared. I think tagging it as a single would add to confusion about the song's release, especially given that the dates provided are for the first release in both countries, while the single only came later.
• Wikilink music critics to Music journalism
  • Done.
• Mention in the lead that the song reached number 74 on the US Billboard Hot 100
  • Done.

Background

• Looks great.
  • Thanks

Recording

• Looks great.
  • Thanks

Release and reception

• "Twist and Shout" reached number two in the US singles charts in April" → ""Twist and Shout" peaked at number two on the US Billboard Hot 100 in April 1964"
  • Done.

Chart performance

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION
  • Added caption.

References

• Wikilink Doubleday Books to Doubleday (publisher) for source 1
• Wikilink Oxford University Press to Oxford University Press for source 2
• Wikilink Harmony Books to Harmony Books for source 4
• Wikilink Delacorte Press to Dell Publishing for source 5
• Wikilink Rough Guides to Rough Guides for source 5
• Wikilink Hamlyn to Hamlyn (publisher) for sources 8 and 9
• Wikilink Chicago Review Press to Chicago Review Press for source 10
• Wikilink Rolling Stone Press to Rolling Stone for source 11
• Wikilink State University of New York Press to State University of New York for source 12
• Wikilink Henry Holt to Henry Holt and Company and source 13
• Wikilink Da Capo Press to Da Capo Press for source 14
• Wikilink Three Rivers Press to Three Rivers Press for source 16
• Wikilink Cambridge University Press to Cambridge University Press for source 17
  • Added all, except Cambridge University Press (already linked earlier).

Overall

Article looks great. Putting it  On hold for 7 days. Amazing job on making a lot of Beatles articles GA! I've been wanting to do some myself but I'm not use to writing in British English and not using the d/m/y formula. Shoot for the Stars 💫 (talk) 03:40, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars, thanks for the review. I don't have too many Beatles GAs just yet – this will be number two – but hopefully many more to come. :) It's not too hard to write in British English; just write in American English, then wait for a Brit to come and correct you. Tkbrett (✉) 11:50, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

The album "Introducing.. The Beatles" was not released in July, 1963

The article mentions "Introducing.. The Beatles" was released in July, 1963, but it was not released until January 10, 1964. VeeJay planned on originally releasing "Please Please Me" as it was released in the UK, but removed the songs "Please Please me" and "Ask Me Why" to fit a 12 song album format used in the US. The plan was to release the new album "Introducing.. The Beatles" in July 1963 and even had the metal parts set up along with album covers, but as noted in the article for this album, there was a management shake-up at Vee-Jay, which included the resignation of the label's president Ewart Abner who used company money to cover personal gambling debts. As the article continues, desperate for cash, the board at VeeJay decided to release "Introducing... The Beatles" on January 10, 1964. They had to stop the sale very soon, due to Beechwood Music, Inc., Capitol Records' publishing subsidiary, owning the rights to "Love Me Do" and "P.S. I Love You", which were removed and the two songs that were excluded were added. This version was released on February 10, 1964. Dkf12 (talk) 19:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Dkf12: Yes, the situation seems somewhat confused by lots of discographies indicating a July 1963 release date, like Castleman & Podrazik, Schultheiss, Wallgren and Womack, the last of which I cited in this article. I see the Introducing... The Beatles article makes a similar statement to you: But, despite the claims of many older Beatles books and discographies that Introducing... The Beatles was first released on 22 July 1963, no documentation exists to confirm that the album was released at any time in 1963. That bit is sourced to Bruce Spizer's 2004 book The Beatles Are Coming! The Birth of Beatlemania in America.

Spizer is a great researcher, but his books are unfortunately often unavailable online or from libraries where I am. They are also outside of my price range (no way am I paying hundreds of dollars to source a claim like this!). I'd like to make sure the statement on the Introducing... article is actually Spizer's before I include it in this article. Do you have access to any of his work? I'm sure his 1998 book The Beatles Records on Vee-Jay would have similar information. Tkbrett (✉) 20:03, 1 November 2022 (UTC)