Talk:Theoktistos

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Johanna in topic GA Review
Good articleTheoktistos has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Reviewer: Johanna (talk · contribs) 15:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

This is currently third on my "to review" list. Sorry it's been sitting here since September! Johanna(talk to me!) 15:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Johanna, and thanks for taking the time to review this! No worries, I know GA can be slow, take your time :) Constantine 14:42, 8 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
Comments
  • Could you expand the lead to better reflect the structure of the article? (i.e. add summaries of each section)
  • "Nothing is known..." Source?
    • Same source as the next sentence. I am not adding references on a sentence-by-sentence basis, but rather on a "thematic" one, or where specific references support specific parts of a statement.

*Be more specific than "the sources"

  • "obviously continued" non-neutral
  • "Following Theophilos' death, a regency..." this is a sentence fragment.
  • Think of another word than "plagued"
  • "In early 843, an assembly of selected officials and clerics..." Split this sentence into two or perhaps three sentences, as it almost feels like a run-on and is a bit confusing to understand.
  • "almost all sources" please be more specific
  • It's up to you, but I would split the second paragraph of "Regency" into two as it's bordering on too long.
  • Same comment about "the sources"
  • "He certainly" non-neutral. I would start that sentence with "According to P. A. Hollingsworth, he "[continued]..."
  • I trust you AGF on the references, but is there more literature on the subject than what you have cited? Notability seems to have been proven, but three sources is still not a lot...
    • I've added two more sources which deal with specific subjects not usually covered in detail in the literature on Theoktistos himself (identity of the governors of Tarsus, some details on events in Sicily). The ODB has a decent overview article where the salient points of his life and career are presented, Treadgold's history is a rather reliable modern reference work on the Byzantine Empire's general history, and the PmbZ article is pretty exhaustive regarding the information we have directly concerning Theoktistos. More sources would only be required for the same purpose as the two sources now added, i.e. if in the course of further development of this article some more details on specific aspects are needed that do not directly concern Theoktistos.

@Cplakidas: Here are my comments (finally). Once you clear these up, I will be able to pass. Johanna(talk to me!) 02:36, 14 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Johanna, sorry for the delay, I was rather busy in RL. I'll get to it later today. Cheers, Constantine 12:30, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hmmm, judging from your comments it looks that I'll need to re-check the PmbZ. I don't have access to that right now, so I'll do it tomorrow. Constantine 22:23, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I've begun working on the article. Constantine 15:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hi Johanna, I've finished going through your suggestions, and have made some further changes/additions of my own. Cheers, Constantine 17:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Cplakidas: Wonderful work! Pass. Johanna(talk to me!) 18:33, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):   d (copyvio and plagiarism):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  

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Johanna, Constantine, where does this review stand? I don't see any edits at all to the content. Are there plans to address the issues soon, or should this be closed? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi BlueMoonset, I've been somewhat busy and have been forced to neglect this (the source I had used is not readily available online any more and I can't reference it from home, and at work I am swamped). Will deal with it during this weekend though. Cheers, Constantine 19:13, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Reply