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Spoilers
editThank you, whoever wrote this article, for the spoilers for season 2 without warning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.115.161 (talk) 01:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- What do you expect when looking at an article about an upcoming show? And also, in general, WP:SPOILER says "spoiler warnings are not used on Wikipedia". Barsoomian (talk) 04:50, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Merge into main article?
editWhy does season 3 need a separate article from the rest of the show? --smnc (talk) 02:18, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- Because there is sufficient notability and information to warrant it. The first and second seasons both have separate articles, so it wouldn't make much sense for season three to be merged even into the episode list page, let alone the main article. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 02:20, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- Same reason Season 1 and 2 do. But if after it's aired it looks thin you could bring it up again, though I really doubt it would be appropriate. Barsoomian (talk) 18:19, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Ep 308 Mad(e) to Suffer
editThe only reliable source we have that gives the title of 308 is Zap2it. And that says it's "Mad to Suffer". Lots of IPs want to "correct" this to "Made to Suffer". And it's quite possible it will be, considering that's what the comic book is called. But the TV writers might have changed it. Who knows. So until we have a better WP:RS it has to stay as "Mad". And of course, wikias and "spoiler" sites aren't reliable. Barsoomian (talk) 18:55, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Zap2it has updated its schedule and now says "Made to Suffer". So the great controversy is over.Barsoomian (talk) 03:09, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Removal of section: "title sequence"
editCan someone cite why this crusty little bit is important to the article?
- Title sequence
- The third season features a distinctly new title sequence. While the opening theme music remains the same, the opening video sequence shows the abandoned cars on the highway from the beginning of season two, and the cast members' names are introduced with different backdrops. Andrew Lincoln is shown with a sheriff's badge on the ground as the backdrop. Sarah Wayne Callies and Laurie Holden are shown with a centipede slithering between two used bullet shells. Norman Reedus is shown with two arrows lodged into a tree trunk. Steven Yeun is shown with the pocket watch that Hershel Greene gave to Glenn. Lauren Cohan is shown with tombstones as the backdrop. Chandler Riggs is shown with cherokee roses and an exterior view of the abandoned, derelict house where Daryl searches for Sophia in season 2 as the backdrop. Danai Gurira is shown with shadows moving behind a closed door. Michael Rooker is shown with an up close view of the moving eyes of a zombie. David Morrissey is shown with a brief tour of the interior of an abandoned, derelict house.
No cited references exclaiming its importance or symbolism to the series means we cannot make that intuitive leap. So I've removed it to here. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 06:44, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree that we can't attach any special importance or symbolism to the new opening, but I think that is important to mention that this season features a Title Sequence. - Dracuns (talk) 21:24, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- Every tv series has a title sequence (with a few notable exceptions, like Seinfeld); what we need is a notable, reliable source that dissects and differentiates the title sequence(s). Without that sort of support externally, we cannot take editorial note of it. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 19:33, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- Until we have that source, we could mention that this season features a new title sequence, making sure to exclude any specific changes. - Dracuns (talk) 22:08, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
- Why "exclude any specific changes"? How is describing the title sequence any different than describing the plot, which is allowed in TV articles using the show itself as the source? Whether it's worth doing in such detail though is another question, and I think it was overdetailed. Barsoomian (talk) 23:56, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
- How it is different, dear Barsoomian, is that the 'plot is the plot' - ie. the plot is going to find more or less general agreement. Underlying plot points (those subject to interpretation) require citation from reputable, notable sources. Title sequences are often open to interpretation and - unless they are specifically and explicitly talked about by source of the aforementioned caliber - need citation. We cannot Sherlock it out for ourselves, no matter how obvious it seems. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 18:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- I said "describing", not "interpreting". No "Sherlocking"™Jack Sebastian required. Barsoomian (talk) 08:49, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- How it is different, dear Barsoomian, is that the 'plot is the plot' - ie. the plot is going to find more or less general agreement. Underlying plot points (those subject to interpretation) require citation from reputable, notable sources. Title sequences are often open to interpretation and - unless they are specifically and explicitly talked about by source of the aforementioned caliber - need citation. We cannot Sherlock it out for ourselves, no matter how obvious it seems. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 18:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- Why "exclude any specific changes"? How is describing the title sequence any different than describing the plot, which is allowed in TV articles using the show itself as the source? Whether it's worth doing in such detail though is another question, and I think it was overdetailed. Barsoomian (talk) 23:56, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Sorry - there appears to be some sort of disconnect going on: allow me to be perhaps more clear (if this doesn't work, I might resort to hand-puppets). Describing the title sequence implies that it is somehow important, and therefore notable enough to include within the article. Without a citation speaking as to the importance of it, we cannot venture forth. I hope that explains matters for you. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 21:07, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
- So, since every TV show has a title sequence, we can't mention this one. Same as every TV show has a star, a director, a writer, a story, a running time, a setting, we thus cannot mention any of those details either, unless someone can be cited saying they are important. Yep, that all makes sense. Sorry, it took me a while to understand your mode of thought. Barsoomian (talk) 03:11, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- That's okay; I wasn't expecting you to keep up, Barsoomian. Glad you made it to the light, though. :) - Jack Sebastian (talk) 04:29, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Season halves
editI think we should make a note about the whole 'midseason finale' business. It ran continuously Oct 14 to Dec 2 then restarted Feb. Other seasons have done this. It's a worthy note, it's sequenced around climaxing midway. Ranze (talk) 02:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Redundant plot section
editIs it just me or is it unnecessary and somewhat redundant to essentially have two plot sections, that do the exact same thing. We have the main plot section, then we have the episodes table which also contain lengthy summaries. It seems weird that we're summarizing the plot (in detail) in two different sections. It might make sense, if say, we trimmed the summaries in the episode table to complete bare minimum details, like just a few sentences, that act more of an basic overview of the episode. Or we keep the lengthy episode summaries, and remove the plot section all together. Any thoughts? This also applies to the season 1 and season 2 articles as well. Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Was the scheduling for ironic purposes?
editFunny that the premier of season finale of this fine show (March 31, 2013 - Easter Sunday) is also on the same day millions around the world don't even blink at the notion of the "dead rising".86.129.64.155 (talk) 14:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Typo/Poor Grammar?
editWhat does Unfortunately, the survivors from the phone call are those of the dead, including Amy, Jim, Jacqui, and Lori. from episode 6 is even supposed to mean?
Why is the colour orange?
editIt should match the poster as other seasons do. I've changed it to a darker green to fit the poster of the third season on the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.78.157 (talk) 14:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
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