Talk:The Virgin of the Navigators

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Geriarto in topic Andalusian flag on XVI century ships?

Isabela in the picture?

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I would like Isabela in the picture, but a simple view shows that there is no woman whatsoever("in first term".. where it belongs).. the related source (Art) is wrong..

Better described by Eric Griffin (Millsaps College):

(Alejo Fernañdez's The Virgin of the Navigators ca. 1535) " Here Columbus, Magellan, and the others who so famously embarked under the flag of Aragon and Castile-Leon, gather around an immense figure of the Madonna. Straddling the seas, the Virgin unites the continents. Around the Virgin gather figures of Amerindians who have been brought from pagan darkness to the light of Roman Catholic Christianity by the navigators who have set sail in her name... --Mcapdevila (talk) 12:52, 22 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yes, Mcapdevila, you are right, and the source was probably not correct. There is no Isabella, at least in the fragment displayed. However, this did remind me of the joke David Letterman once told about Columbus arriving on the east coast again in the 20th century and saying .... But never mind. History2007 (talk) 13:38, 23 November 2010 (UTC)Reply


Andalusian flag on XVI century ships?

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The Spanish region of Andalusia had no political definition nor identity symbols until the adveniment of the secesionist Spanish movements in the late XIX century. The Andalusia flag was aproved in 1918 and its design was explained refering to a large number of historical myths, like the use of green-white colours in old Al-Andalus muslim banners or the suposed "proto-andalusian" flags observed in the galleons of The Virgin of the Navigators picture, among many others. So is absolutely false to speak of the existence of a waving flag of Andalusia in the XVI century galleons of the painting of Our Lady of the Navigators. Geriarto (talk) 21:50, 23 March 2013 (UTC)Reply