Talk:The Maiden in the Tower

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A fact from The Maiden in the Tower appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that The Maiden in the Tower, the only opera by Jean Sibelius, was withdrawn after only three performances with the intention to revise it, which never happened?

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Moving FA concerns here: There are some citation issues at the moment. For one, Discogs is a user generated source, thus not reliable for FAC purposes (I do also wonder why the two CD refs are in notes rather than citation templates). There is also the matter of primary sources; I see no issue with using them for quoting newspapers of the time, particularly since you are getting them from the Sibelius museum. However, any other uses should always be avoided, if at all possibe. For instance, the use of ref 25 in the line "he had been the editor, theatre and art critic, and..." is not ideal Aza24 (talk) 07:50, 30 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

A few comments: 1) I put the refs for the two CDs as efn rather than sfn because the sfn for BIS would link to the source that has Tawaststjerna as the author for the liner notes; but, the CD in its entirety is not by Tawaststjerna... indeed, I don't know who writes the pages of the CD that are not the liner notes/commentary. Any thoughts? Does my point even make sense? 2) Darn... I really like using the old newspapers to unearth lost information. Yes, primarily I use them for critics' reviews and/or information about the original program and evening. These details, unfortunately, are often only available via these reviews. I can see, however, that using the obituary for info about Hertzberg's career is not ideal, but again, I could not find a better source. Anyway, I have footnoted this info about him. ~ Silence of Järvenpää 14:35, 2 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Surely you can link directly to [1]? You could use the "others=" parameter and include something like "anon writer"? I don't see Tawaststjerna listed as the author, but might be missing something. The discogs reference would definitely need to go for FAC.

For primary sources, I think the rule of only using primary if there are no secondary sources available is relatively common, and thus applies here – Aza24 (talk) 02:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

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