Talk:The Emptiness Machine
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editThis version of the article is inappropriate. It's an WP:UNDUE issue to have 75% of the article not even be about the song. A little is okay, but this is far too much bloat.
Also, please follow WP:BRD. This should only be included if/when you have consensus, not the other way around. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 16:13, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- See also User talk:Left guide#Discussion, courtesy ping as well to @Rockmusicfanatic20: Left guide (talk) 17:16, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I added the {{off topic}} tag to the background section because the first paragraph (which is most of the section) fails to discuss the song even though some of its cited sources do. I believe the section needs to be re-written. Left guide (talk) 17:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- While I feel like this is used to display context around the song, if I have written it inappropriately, feel free to correct it in the way it should be. Thanks, sorry for any inconvenience. It has been a hard time lately and I haven't been thinking straight with a loss of a close relative, it has been sloppy. It may not be an excuse, but I have been way too shitty and stubborn like this. Hope you two are doing well, and I apologise for me making things difficult in articles, again correct anything you feel is wrong. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 22:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Rockmusicfanatic20: Sorry for your loss, and I hope things get better. For now, I think that adding a {{further}} hatnote atop the section linking back to the greater detail and context covered at the band article would be a useful change for readers. Meanwhile, I'll see what I can cook up in my sandbox regarding the song to possibly improve the section so it's more on-topic.
- (p.s. thanks for saving the Not Alone (Linkin Park song) article. It's one I am fond of and one of the first LP songs I got into back in the day. I actually found a book source mention of that music video that I might add at some point.) Left guide (talk) 10:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- While I feel like this is used to display context around the song, if I have written it inappropriately, feel free to correct it in the way it should be. Thanks, sorry for any inconvenience. It has been a hard time lately and I haven't been thinking straight with a loss of a close relative, it has been sloppy. It may not be an excuse, but I have been way too shitty and stubborn like this. Hope you two are doing well, and I apologise for me making things difficult in articles, again correct anything you feel is wrong. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 22:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2024
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Writing credits are inaccurate for the song. They should be Mike Shinoda, Brad Delson & Dave Farrell per Genius.com. The current listed source (Tidal) is inaccurately listed showing band members as composers when Tidal details them as what instruments/vocals are played. Mike Shinoda is listed as the producer.
https://genius.com/Linkin-park-the-emptiness-machine-lyrics 173.64.114.184 (talk) 19:59, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Genius shows the band members credits that is edited in by users, Tidal is used by the credits that it intergrated by the members of the band itself (coded in before release), like Spotify as it is a streaming service. User generated sources aren't used to showcase song credits, as it is inaccurate to do so. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 22:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details.Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk)