Talk:Taiwan–United States relations

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I placed the POV tag when creating the article because it is pasted from a US government website. Because this comes from a US govt source it may not be neutral, but I don't have the expertise to judge. (Hopefully others that know more will simply remove the tag if they think the article looks okay.) Mangostar (talk) 05:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I edited after previewing the sources that I could preview (google books limits).

• "However, Chiang did not like the Americans, and was suspicious of their motives." Pg. 412 does not mention his dislike for the Americans, but does mention his suspicions.
• "Chiang ordered the plotters executed." The plotters, or the CIA did not get directly involved. Those who did carry out the plans were considered "rebels" in the book and thus were the ones executed.
• "Earlier, he had been involved with the Blue Shirts Society, a fascist inspired paramilitary group in the Kuomintang, which wanted to expel Western and Japanese imperialists, crush the Communists, and eliminate feudalism.[12]" Does not really have anything to do with ROC-US relations. Overall, I feel the history part is too biased Chiang8mm (talk) 15:02, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

rename without discussion

This article was renamed without discussion. One problem is that officially the U.S. has no relations with the "Republic of China", it has unofficial relations with "Taiwan". Just one example of this is that the law governing the relations is called the "Taiwan Relations Act", not the "Republic of China Relations Act". Readin (talk) 22:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

If moving without discussion is offensive to you in this case. I apologise. I didn't think it would be a problem.

The Act is called "Taiwan Relations Act" because the US doesn't recognise the "Republic of China".

The article is about the "Republic of China", not Taiwan. Taiwan, according to the NPOV naming policy, is a geographic location. The US cannot have any interaction with a place, it is having interactions with a state which it does not recognise. That state is "Republic of China".--pyl (talk) 14:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

response to Pyl

Uh, so what about RoC-US relations prior to 1970? I'm fine with not referring to the Republic on China as Taiwan (even though it's wrong), as long as we don't make everything else confusing. Now it certainly is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.89.219 (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

45 Senators

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nearly-half-the-us-senate-urges-obama-to-authorize-f-16-jet-fighter-sale-to-taiwan/2011/05/26/AGRzqJCH_story.html

Does not seem to be quite noteworthy enough. Hcobb (talk) 15:09, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Penultimate Paragraph unclear

Maybe someone can clarify what this means: "On 24 August 2010, the United States State Department announced a change to commercial sales of military equipment in place of the previous high provide Foreign Military Sales (unclear) in the hope of avoiding political implications (please specify). [22] --Lacarids (talk) 02:07, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 14:58, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

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Republic of China–United States relations → Taiwan–United States relations – 1. WP:COMMONNAME: the Main country articles are in Taiwan, United States; Foreign relations of Taiwan, Foreign relations of the United States. 2. WP:OFFICIAL: Currently, the US uses Taiwan Relations Act to govern this relations, and has no relations to the title of ROC. On the other side, the ROC(Taiwan) government also uses the term "Taiwan-U.S. Relations" in the contemporary context, like [1] [2]. 3. The historical part of this article before 1949 (or 1978) should be merged into Sino-American relations. 68.181.2.18 (talk) 01:13, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

• rename per nom. Republic of China–United States relations (1911-1949) should be created as a redirect to Sino-American relations and create a disambiguation page at the current name of "Republic of China–United States relations" to point to the Taiwan-American and Sino-American articles. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 03:42, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
  • And Republic of China–United States relations (1949-present) should redirect to this article. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 23:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
• Strong oppose, not having agreed with the renaming of the Republic of China article, it is my view that the official names of both claimants of the name China should be used, least one claimant be given preferential weight regarding the issue. I can understand a Merge & Redirect of this article to the Sino-American relations article, with two seperate sections for the People's Republic of China and Republic of China's relations with the United States of America, but to rename this in order to favor one party in the One China issue is a violation of WP:NEU IMHO.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:59, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

• Comment. "Taiwan-US relation" is used by both the United Sates and ROC(Taiwan), WP:NEU is not violated if both side use the same term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.140.157.228 (talk) 22:04, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

• Support. Even if there was a POV issue, the child articles should follow the parent article at Taiwan, as we need consistent style. But in fact there isn't really a POV issue. The English-language press in both China and Taiwan generally call this country "Taiwan," just like everybody else. The Taiwanese constitution was amended 20 years ago so that Taipei no longer claims to be an alternative government of China. Check out the map on the presidential website. The Taiwan Relations Act is pretty clear that the US has relations only with "the people on Taiwan" and "Taiwan," and not with the ROC. Kauffner (talk) 16:35, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support. There is no "ROC-US relations" now, only "Taiwan-US relations".Fizikanauk (talk) 22:26, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support Kauffner said it all. --BDD (talk) 16:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support per Kauffner, this article should follow the lead articles, in this case Taiwan and the United States. This is not the proper location for another round of Republic of China vs Taiwan.--Labattblueboy (talk) 01:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
• Support The country's article has been renamed to Taiwan - agree that this should be changed to provide consistency. Oddbodz (talk) 20:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
• Rename This should follow the lead articles, we shouldn't have to have this discussion every single time. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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Anti Americanism in Taiwan

Anti-American Children's Verses from Taiwan David K. Jordan Western Folklore Vol. 32, No. 3 (Jul., 1973), pp. 205-209 Published by: Western States Folklore Society Article Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/1498385

21:44, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

RoC - US relations

I read above that this was moved to Taiwan-US relations and simply ignores RoC-US relations prior to 1949 (or 1970ish, in which such relations still had official existence). This page is now confusing to me. Where can I find info about RoC-US relations that are not centric to RoC during its relocation to Taiwan (either before or after there were still historical relations that were officially seen as RoC-US?) Is this some attempt to rewrite history? 24.14.89.219 (talk) 00:42, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

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The opening sentence is a complete mess

I wouldn't even know how to edit it because I am not even sure what it is trying to say. It's a massive run-on sentence, but it becomes a grammatical disaster almost immediately. SlackerInc1 (talk) 20:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I think the opening paragraph (not just the first sentence) needs to be revised substantially. Per MOS:LEADREL and MOS:FIRST it is overly loaded with information not directly related to the subject of Taiwan-US relations and does not appear necessary to include here - the topics it touched on has been elaborated in other articles. W9793 (talk) 21:17, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Transcription

Since one of the official languages of Taiwan is Taiwanese (Hokkien/Southern Min), shouldn't the transcription for the Taiwan-United States relation be in 闽南语 (southern min) instead of 广东话 (cantonese), or we can retain cantonese and add the southern min transcription 2406:3003:2002:2D79:2C76:BDA2:E642:CD49 (talk) 13:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Trump : "Taiwan should pay ..."

Trump says Taiwan should pay the US for its defence as ‘it doesn’t give us anything’ Search'n'write (talk) 10:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC)