Talk:Swamp pop

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New user here. I would like to suggest that the music of Jerry Reed--especially the 1970 song "Amos Moses"-- be included in the "Swamp Pop" article. Jerry Reed Hubbard was from Florida, not Lousiana, but his music was quite well-known and influential. Bobzilla001 (talk) 18:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)Bobzilla001

• I like Jerry Reed and his music, but I don't think it's swamp pop, which has a very distinct sound close to 1950s New Orleans R&B. Reed's music is probably closer to the "swamp rock" of group's like CCR, though I know Reed was primarily a country singer, albeit with blues influence. --Skb8721 (talk) 19:20, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Cover

In the first section cover is clarified as re-recorded. That is definitely not essential. I am removing it. Jbhf1 (talk) 11:47, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Swamp Rock

Swamp Rock redirects here, which is ridiculous. The article even makes this fact clear. Someone with more knowledge of Creedence and other bands wanna fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.88.172.228 (talk) 17:31, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

John Phillips

Would John Phillips' "Mississippi" be an example of swamp pop? -- HLachman (talk) 18:57, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, it's a good song but to me it sounds like "swamp rock" not "swamp pop," the latter of which is rooted in the 1950s R&B and sounds typically like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2W2aB7E24M

Sincerely,

Skb8721 Skb8721 (talk) 22:01, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Skb8721, why are you arguing based on how it sounds to you? Listening to music and deciding for yourself what it sounds like is a fine practice for private benefit, but on Wikipedia it is a violation of WP:No original research. Wikipedia is mainly based on WP:SECONDARY sources, which means a deaf person can edit articles about music on Wikipedia. We should be looking at the published literature, not listening and judging. Binksternet (talk) 03:22, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Point taken, @Binksternet. I can tell you, however, that the major source material about swamp pop (which for many years I have sought out and read; see the works of John Broven, Bill Millar, Larry Benicewicz, etc.) do not mention Phillips or "Mississippi" as examples of swamp pop. Those researchers state that the swamp pop sound closely resembles the 1950s New Orleans R&B sound exemplified by artists like Fats Domino, Earl King, Larry Williams, Smiley Lewis, etc. But if you can find reliable sources referring to Phillips and "Mississippi" as "swamp pop," it would surely be worth mentioning in this entry. Skb8721 Skb8721 (talk) 22:08, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

OP here. I don't have a position one way or the other, just askin'. There's one album review which refers to this track as a "swamp jam"... so there's an opinion of sorts. -- HLachman (talk) 08:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Split

The split for "Swamp rock" has been proposed by RockabillyRaccoon on 13 November 2022.

• Agree. The genres have a conditional overlap, in fact being very different music. There is enough text on swamp-rock to make it a separate article. Solidest (talk) 08:20, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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