Talk:Sultan Al Neyadi

Requested move 18 August 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Bghhh

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Reliable English-language sources predominantly support the present title, and we should follow this usage. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:20, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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Sultan Al Neyadi → Sultan AlNeyadi – There should be no space between Al and Neyadi. It's one word Hattmedia (talk) 17:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:30, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Hattmedia: I have seen very many examples of this Arabic "al" (meaning "the") trsnscribed into English as a separate word.
  • And also Hazza Al Mansouri → Hazza AlMansoori – AlMansoori is one word and is spelt with o not u Hattmedia (talk) 17:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
    • Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:44, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
• @Appleyard: You are correct. (ال) means 'the' in English, but in this case, it's part of the name (النيادي) and does not mean 'the' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hattmedia (talk • contribs) 16:43, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
• @Appleyard: These are their social media accounts @astro_hazzaa and @Astro_Alneyadi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hattmedia (talk • contribs) 15:30, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose both. No evidence has been presented to show that "AlNeyadi" is the most common rendering in English language RS (and similarly for "AlMansoori"). A cursory search suggests that the opposite is true. Colin M (talk) 03:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
• If you keep 'Al" the way it is, it means "the house of" same as Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum...Neither Sultan nor Hazzaa are Sheikhs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammouni80 (talk • contribs) 06:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose (both): Al Neyadi's self-published bio includes a space. So does his referenced astronaut profile and the Twitter announcement of his selection. There is no evidence that the space should be omitted. The same situation applies for the other person. Most of the cited sources, including the astronaut profile page, a Twitter announcement, and the Gulf News article, spell his surname "Al Mansouri" (with a space and a "u"). —BarrelProof (talk) 16:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

On the other hand, I just saw an apparently official picture of the two that omits the space from both surnames and uses "oo" instead of "ou". But maybe the name patches are just designed to save width by removing the space and shortening the forenames to just the first initial. —BarrelProof (talk) 22:44, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

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