Talk:Steyr Scout
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editDo we really need this weapon's page to contain crap about Counter-Strike? I mean really, this is an encyclopedia, not a gaming manual. --144.136.168.184 07:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- ^^Agree - User:Todoperoso
- Disagree: penetration into popular culture is important, especially since the gun is a little obscure. Hga 22:50, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Except, if you went to the average person, they wouldn't know a thing about this gun. So, is it that noteable? No one has heard of it, the game didn't really spread any knowledge, so it isn't noteable enough to be included.--LWF 00:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps---but when I was in high school, if I came across mention of a (esp. cool) gun I'd never heard of, I and my friends would look it up in "Small Arms of the World". Nowadays people have the net including Wikipedia for that. So therefore I still think it's noteable, especially when comparing to other, better known guns that are more featured in games. To be encyclopedic I want an entry to tell me these sorts of things I wouldn't otherwise know about. Hga 00:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- It's important to remember that when the anonymous user at the top complained about the "crap", a year ago, there was a hell of a lot about the usage of the Steyr Scout in Counter-Strike, and precious little else. It's important to keep the focus on the real weapon, so I think linking to the Counter-Strike article is a perfectly acceptable compromise. Seanlavelle 03:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think its interesing that the weopon "Schmidt Scout" in the popular video game counterstrike is actually the "Steyr Scout". I have restored the old 'Popular culture' section. 81.5.207.30 23:17, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- It's important to remember that when the anonymous user at the top complained about the "crap", a year ago, there was a hell of a lot about the usage of the Steyr Scout in Counter-Strike, and precious little else. It's important to keep the focus on the real weapon, so I think linking to the Counter-Strike article is a perfectly acceptable compromise. Seanlavelle 03:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Article Name
editThe name of the article should be "Steyr Scout", I have never heard the gun called "Mannlicher Scout", and all of the websites/books about guns I have seen call it Steyr Scout. WP:NAME says "use the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things.", Steyr Scout is the common name for the gun, so it should be moved. --DanMP5 Semper Fi, Carry on 23:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- While I'm not familiar with the official policies, the above strikes me as correct. The only minor issue is that Mannlicher/Steyr wants to rename it, supposedly due to a belated realization that Steyr Scout abbreviates to SS, which of course has particularly unpleasant connotations to them. But while I don't know about current production, prior has "Steyr Scout" labeled on the gun, scope caps, etc., so they have an uphill battle, which we are by no means required to join. Hga 13:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- If they have already made hundreds or thousands of guns with "Steyr Scout" on them, and the very first Scout was called Steyr Scout, the article needs to be moved. So I am going to do that. — DanMP5 Semper Fi, Carry on 19:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. Nit in your above comment: it's the first production Scout, I don't know if someone managed to make a custom version prior to it that "made weight", by far the most difficult thing to achieve, and is a lot of what has to make the Steyr Scout so expensive (custom hammer forged fluted short barrel, custom aluminium receiver, all that custom polymer furniture, all expensive in design, tooling, and low quantity production---I gather pretty much only the action design and the bolt are stock from their standard rifles). Hga 12:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Calibers
editEdited them so it would be comprehendled for the rest of the world outside USA. The manufacturer is also european. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.24.77.16 (talk) 11:45, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Added the .30-06 caliber since a portion of the first production run was chambered for that caliber. Danellicus (talk) 16:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
More Name Confusion
editThe new Steyr Elite (Steyr Elite 08) is an actual folding stock ssg variant, with the rail system from the elite. Should Steyr Elite redirect to a new listing now? Or possibly a disambiguation page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NeonChrysanthemum (talk • contribs) 19:18, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- That is the Steyr Elite '08', which differs from the standard Steyr Elite. Both variants will be produced, "now also available".