Talk:Statue of Junípero Serra (Los Angeles)

Sources

• https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-20/junipero-serra-statue-toppled-in-downtown-l-a
• https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2020-06-20/statue-junipero-serra-monument-protest-activists-take-down-los-angeles

---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:45, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

https://www.dailynews.com/2020/06/20/protesters-in-l-a-topple-statue-of-junipero-serra-who-helped-colonize-california/

The demonstration was referred to as an “unmonumenting and cleansing of space” done in partnership with the Tataviam and Tongva Tribal Nations, according to a statement from members of Los Angeles’s Native/Indigenous community. The act was described as “a step forward in returning balance to these lands.”

https://laist.com/2020/06/20/native_angelenos_tore_down_a_statue_of_junipero_serra_in_solidarity_with_black_lives_matter.php?fbclid=IwAR1m9-p__3gKpPyI_R9_RBAUOV3tYy73Y_xcr-ba9X0a20Y_kAi4rcbjOGs

Notice the title!!!

Joel Garcia, a Monument Lab Fellow, and Native artist, said he and fellow activists behind the Olvera action are a community of various tribal nations, including those native to California — Tongva, Tataviam, Chumash, and Acjachemen — along with allies from various racial and ethnic communities.

"This is our way of supporting our Black Lives Matter folks," Garcia said. The group supported Justice L.A. Now in 2017, installing prison beds as public art projects around the city to protest the expansion of the L.A. County jail system.

OK. Now we have actual cites, I think normal editing can proceed from here. To the IP editor: please collaborate with Another Believer on this. -- The Anome (talk) 19:53, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok but I feel critical info is being censored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1303:CD23:1D6D:5989:25B8:483 (talk) 20:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

If you can provide a reliable source to support it, you can add that information. But if not, not. Please see WP:RS and WP:V for more background on this. -- The Anome (talk) 20:07, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

I did - I shared the LA Daily News article above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1303:CD23:1D6D:5989:25B8:483 (talk) 20:09, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. If you can follow the editing rules, you are more than welcome to edit here. Have you considered creating an account? -- The Anome (talk) 20:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

I'll continue editing as modeled but please allow me to finish before deleting the info. I don't have an account yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1303:CD23:1D6D:5989:25B8:483 (talk) 20:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Can one cite a city document? http://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2020/20-0871_mot_06-30-2020.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2hqFEp57Nl2fj89fJtHz9_NDHQRglFwXJWl5QKLMxvE9s_Kd7WArollhA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1303:CD23:1D6D:5989:25B8:483 (talk) 20:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Save Outdoor Sculpture! entry

• https://siris-artinventories.si.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&profile=ariall&source=~!siartinventories&uri=full=3100001~!922~!0#focus

---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:20, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Dates

The dates are confusing. This is a replica. Seems the original was cast in 1930, the replica was cast in 1931, and I see both 1932 and 1934 cited as the installation date. Some clarifying is needed here. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

We've been trying to figure that out because from what we have seen this one seems to be a replica of a replica. I'm asking the city to provide details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1303:CD23:1D6D:5989:25B8:483 (talk) 21:06, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Who is "we"? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)