Talk:Star of the Giants
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First sports anime claim
editIs racing considered a sport? If so, then Mach Go Go Go beat this series by a year. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 16:43, 19 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)
Star of the Giants → Kyojin no Hoshi – This series is actually not known by any official English title. In such cases, we always stick with the transliteration of the Japanese title. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 12:08, 12 October 2012 (UTC) —Farix (t | c) 01:20, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose, per WP:UE: "If there is no established English-language treatment for a name, translate it if this can be done without loss of accuracy and with greater understanding for the English-speaking reader." There are usage examples at AnimeNewsNetwork, Kelts' Japanamerica, and MacWilliams' Japanese Visual Culture. Kauffner (talk) 10:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- ANN's encyclopedia's article is under the title of Kyojin no Hoshi. Sometimes, they include a translation, but that doesn't mean it is an official name or even well known. I'll also point out that ANN's encyclopedia can be edited by anyone and translations of titles are easily inserted (official or not). Also ANN's news section uses the transliterated title exclusively.[1][[2][3][4][5][6] Japanese Visual Culture gives the title as Kyōjin no Hoshi while only providing Star of the Giants as a translation. Only Japanamerica uses Star of the Giants without providing a transliteration. That is one link out of the three you provided. The move to the transliterated name would be in keeping with WP:EN (which states "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources (for example other encyclopedias and reference works, scholarly journals and major news sources)"). WP:UE is about the spelling of names in English when they are different from the native language or a direct transliteration (Tokyo vs Tōkyō). Since the majority of reliable sources found so far use the transliterated title, that should be the title of the article. —Farix (t | c) 11:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- WP:UE supports the use of a translated title when there is "no established English-language treatment." The three links I gave confirm that the current title is a widely accepted translation. Here is another link: The Anime Encyclopedia. Kauffner (talk) 13:10, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Kauffner, you've doing things that run you into scrutiny again. Your behaviour on this page is similar to what you did on the naming discussion on this page. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! (BOOM!) 00:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry Kauffner, but that other source you provided is irrelevant to this discussion. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! (BOOM!) 00:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- WP:UE supports the use of a translated title when there is "no established English-language treatment." The three links I gave confirm that the current title is a widely accepted translation. Here is another link: The Anime Encyclopedia. Kauffner (talk) 13:10, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- ANN's encyclopedia's article is under the title of Kyojin no Hoshi. Sometimes, they include a translation, but that doesn't mean it is an official name or even well known. I'll also point out that ANN's encyclopedia can be edited by anyone and translations of titles are easily inserted (official or not). Also ANN's news section uses the transliterated title exclusively.[1][[2][3][4][5][6] Japanese Visual Culture gives the title as Kyōjin no Hoshi while only providing Star of the Giants as a translation. Only Japanamerica uses Star of the Giants without providing a transliteration. That is one link out of the three you provided. The move to the transliterated name would be in keeping with WP:EN (which states "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources (for example other encyclopedias and reference works, scholarly journals and major news sources)"). WP:UE is about the spelling of names in English when they are different from the native language or a direct transliteration (Tokyo vs Tōkyō). Since the majority of reliable sources found so far use the transliterated title, that should be the title of the article. —Farix (t | c) 11:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Administrator's comment: It would be helpful to see how the subject is referred to in English language sources, if available.--Cúchullain t/c 16:54, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
first sports manga not anime
editIf correct,Speedracer would be the the first sports anime, but I think Star of Giants is the first sports manga. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.180.193.191 (talk) 15:17, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Unofficial Title
editShouldn't the name of the article be "Kyojin no Hoshi" since there has never been an official English-language release of this series or an official translation of the title (which can also be translated as "The Giant's Star" or "Star of the Giant" (singular)) and it's all but unknown in the west. DekuHero (talk) 21:56, 14 February 2018 (UTC)