Talk:Star Wars: The Last Jedi/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 02:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 02:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Remove Frank Oz from the infobox since he's not in the billing block.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• [[Lucasfilm Ltd.]] → [[Lucasfilm|Lucasfilm Ltd.]]

 Not done per WP:NOTBROKEN and consistent with Episodes VII and IX. Chompy Ace 22:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• A reference is needed for the film being dedicated to Carrie Fisher as it doesn't appear in any other section.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:05, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Star Wars: The Last Jedi (soundtrack) somewhere in "returned to compose the score" (maybe in "the score").

 Done Chompy Ace 21:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Plot

• Remove the comma after "dragged into space".

 Done Chompy Ace 22:03, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• Remove the comma after "the Jedi library".

 Done Chompy Ace 21:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Cast

• In the hatnote, swap List of Star Wars cast members and List of Star Wars characters per consistency with The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:04, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• The first reference after "slot machine" is dead.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 22:04, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• The reference after "Force spirit" is dead.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 22:04, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• Is the reference after "Commander D'Acy" necessary since it's already cited at the end of the sentence?

 Fixed Chompy Ace 22:04, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• Lily Cole is not in this source.

Replaced with the BFI. Chompy Ace 22:04, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• The last paragraph in this section has some really short sentences. Try combining some.

 Done Chompy Ace 21:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Production

Development

• Link Star Wars, Lucasfilm, J. J. Abrams, The Force Awakens, Bob Iger, and Kathleen Kennedy.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Is the quote from Kathleen Kennedy needed? Can it be changed to "In December, Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy said that the film had not been mapped out and..."?

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• In that same sentence, the use of the phrase "with Johnson and that Johnson" seems repetitive. Try rewording or splitting the sentences.

 Done reworded Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• The sentence starting with "Abrams is an executive producer" seems out of place. Maybe change it to "Additionally, Abrams served as an executive producer".

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Combine the last two paragraphs in this section together and move January 23, 2017, to the beginning of the sentence it's in.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• The last sentence doesn't work without context. Add context and change "Carrie" to Carrie Fisher.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• "[[Kathleen Kennedy]]" → "[[Kathleen Kennedy (producer)|Kathleen Kennedy]]"

 Done Chompy Ace 01:11, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Lucasfilm in the first sentence.

 Done Chompy Ace 01:11, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• "revealed this as" → "revealed that"

 Done Chompy Ace 01:11, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Writing

• Link Rey.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• "scene to Luke" → "scene to Luke Skywalker"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Combine the last two paragraphs.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Casting

• The first reference after "playing a villain" is dead.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Laura Dern, Kelly Marie Tran, and Yoda.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• "Tran plays" → "Tran would play"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Filming

• Link Skellig Michael, Pinewood Studios, and Star Wars Trilogy.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• The reference after "filming in Mexico" only mentions Mexico once, and links to this source from Excélsior, so I would cite that instead.

 Done removed per Special:MobileDiff/1007271016 Chompy Ace 23:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Starting that same sentence with "In November 2014, Ivan Dunleavy, chief executive of Pinewood Studios, confirmed" seems misleading as the last part was from December 2015 and was said by Kathleen Kennedy. I suggest rewording, splitting, or just moving the last part farther down in #Filming.

 Done reworded Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

I didn't spot a change so this still feels misleading. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 00:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done removed per Special:MobileDiff/1007271016 Chompy Ace 02:12, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• The reference after "March 2016" is dead.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Is "In September 2015, del Toro revealed that principal photography would begin in March 2016; Kennedy later said filming would begin in January 2016." necessary? Both sentences contradict themselves, making it harder for readers, and the point is already made in the next paragraph.

 Done removed "Kennedy later said filming would begin in January 2016." sentence Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• In this source, there's no mention of filming in Bolivia taking place in July.

 Fixed removed date Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• "[[Star Wars#Prequel trilogy|prequel trilogy]]" → "[[Star Wars prequel trilogy|prequel trilogy]]"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Bringing the Spanish source back change "at the Salar de Uyuni salt flats in Bolivia." to "at the Salar de Uyuni salt flats in Bolivia. Additional filming took place in Mexico."

 Done Chompy Ace 20:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Music

• "Star Wars Celebration Europe" → "Star Wars Celebration Europe"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• The second reference in the first sentence is from June, so change "Kennedy announced" to "Kennedy confirmed".

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Star Wars sequel trilogy.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Don't link conducting per WP:OVERLINK.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• The first reference after "the sessions" is dead.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 22:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Release

• This source doesn't mention Shrine Auditorium. I'm sure a better reference can be swapped in that does.

Replaced with Los Angeles Daily News Chompy Ace 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Marketing

• Remove "were released on October 12" as it's already mentioned.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• This section is really short so I would combine all three paragraphs.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• "The Last Jedi: Visual Dictionary" → "The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary" (the actual title)

 Done Chompy Ace 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Home media

• This subsection looks good.

 Already done Chompy Ace 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Reception

Box office

• "$712.6 million" → "$712.5 million"

 Done Chompy Ace 23:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Fix the link in "seventh-biggest of all time".

 Fixed Chompy Ace 23:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• I think it's now the eighth biggest, not the seventh.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

United States and Canada

• Link Rogue One.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• Since its been a while, also link The Force Awakens.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• A reference is needed for the film opening at "4,232 theaters".

 Done Chompy Ace 23:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• "a total of 67.5%" → "a total of 67%"

 Done Chompy Ace 23:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• "$71.6 million" → "$71.7 million"

 Done Chompy Ace 23:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

• "$23.7 million" → "$23.6 million"

 Done Chompy Ace 23:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Other countries

• "set in France" → "set in various countries, including France"

 Done Chompy Ace 02:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• What does "compared the opening of The Force Awakens" even mean? Is the sentence finished?

 Done removed Chompy Ace 02:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• "which compared the opening" → "compared to the opening"

 Done removed Chompy Ace 02:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• The reference after "92 percent" links to this more in-depth source, so cite that instead.

 Done Chompy Ace 02:40, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• According to Box Office Mojo, The Last Jedi actually grossed $42.5 million in China. If you don't want to cite that, here's an from The Hollywood Reporter.

 Fixed added pre-existing reference Chompy Ace 02:44, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• The reference after "showtimes by 90%" has the wrong title.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 19:58, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Critical response

• Update Rotten Tomatoes.

 Done Chompy Ace 01:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Try removing some quotes per WP:RECEPTION.

 Done Chompy Ace 01:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Audience reception

• "2.67 stars" → "2.6 stars"

 Done Chompy Ace 01:56, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• "4.3 out of 10" → "4.2 out of 10"

 Done Chompy Ace 01:56, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Some Multiple claims in the last paragraph have THREE citations each. Try removing some per WP:OVERLINK.

 Done have reduced to one or two citations, and one from the first sentence in this section is converted into a bundle Chompy Ace 08:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

See here and here. I restored the refs, but I bundled them. See WP:CITEBUNDLE and WP:Citation overkill. I think the reviewer meant WP:Citation overkill, not WP:OVERLINK. WP:OVERLINK isn't about refs. The refs aren't redundant. They are there so that that the sentences are fully verified. If we say "several reviewers" and only have one reviewer supporting the sentence, that leaves the sentence somewhat unverified. There's also a WP:Hidden note in the section showing that the section was crafted after a lot of discussion. ReaperRoe (talk) 18:04, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

However, there are now duplicate citations to the same source. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 18:52, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

What duplicates? We're allowed to use the same ref more than once. That's what WP:REFNAME is for. And it's fine for us to use a ref both in a bundle and on its own. ReaperRoe (talk) 19:32, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

 Already done Chompy Ace 20:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm saying that the same reference is listed more than once (you can find the citation from Ian Youngs in #References five times). You can simply fix this with a better cite bundle using something like <ref name="Youngs"/> multiple times. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 20:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Accolades

• For the 2018 Teen Choice Awards, change "August 13, 2018" to "August 12, 2018"

 Done Chompy Ace 02:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Ren Klyce, David Parker, Michael Semanick, Stuart Wilson, and Chris Corbould.

 Done Chompy Ace 06:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link each nominee every time they are listed per MOS:REPEATLINK.

 Done Chompy Ace 06:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Fix the link to British Academy Film Awards by simply adding an "s".

 Done Chompy Ace 06:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Can a secondary source for the Academy Awards be added, such as this?

Replaced with Los Angeles Times Chompy Ace 01:56, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• This reference doesn't include the nominees for the BAFTA Award for Best Special Visual Effects.

Replaced with Entertainment Weekly Chompy Ace 06:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• For the MTV Award, can "Best Actor in a Movie" be changed to "Best Performance in a Movie" per the source used?

 Done Chompy Ace 06:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Add rowspans to the various yet identical Teen Choice Awards.

 Done Chompy Ace 06:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Rick Heinrichs.

 Done Chompy Ace 20:01, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Sequel

• This section looks good.

 Already done Chompy Ace 06:51, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

References

• Mark citations from Vanity Fair with "url-access=limited".

 Done Chompy Ace 21:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

• Per consistency with the rest of the article, Yahoo! and Bleeding Cool should not be in italics.

 Done Chompy Ace 06:50, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Mark citations from The Washington Post with "url-access=limited".

 Done Chompy Ace 08:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Anthony Breznican

 Done Chompy Ace 08:50, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Dave McNary

 Done Chompy Ace 08:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Robbie Collin

 Done Chompy Ace 10:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Todd McCarthy

 Not done reference had been removed (See #Critical response) Chompy Ace 10:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Will Gompertz

 Done Chompy Ace 10:22, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Mark Kermode

 Not done as The Observer was removed due to its tabloid format Chompy Ace 01:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Owen Gleiberman

 Done Chompy Ace 10:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Michael Cavna

 Done Chompy Ace 10:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• The New Yorker should be marked as "url-access=limited", not "url-access=subscription".

 Fixed Chompy Ace 01:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• "Alirjaafar" → "Jaafar; Ali"

 Done removed per Special:MobileDiff/1007271016 Chompy Ace 06:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

• The last reference, located after "with Chris Terrio" in #Sequel, is not working.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 06:52, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Progess

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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