Talk:Stab wound

A worldwide statistic, or Americanocentric?

"stab wounds occur four times more often than gunshot wounds" - the refs provided for this are all American, so are we to assume that this statistic refers only to America? If so, there should be a proviso in the text saying so, otherwise the reader would assume that this is a globally-applicable statistic. Sadly, as US editors often have to be reminded, the US is not the world. 81.129.133.180 (talk) 08:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

JAMA used various global sources that more or less agree with that statement.Peter.C • talk • contribs 11:19, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Mortality rate from gunshots

The article asserts that stab wounds occur more often than gunshot wounds, but there is nothing that asserts that the mortality rate for the latter is higher. How did this get approved for Did You Know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.253.147.165 (talk) 09:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Multiple issues

This article is rather a wreck. First, we don't give medical advice on Wikipedia, so some of it needs to be deleted or rewritten. Second, please see WP:MEDRS and WP:MEDMOS-- we don't use one Israeli primary source to make a generalized statement about religion and stab wounds. Third, the authors seem confused about the whole mortality rate issue-- the numbers included in the DYK hook aren't even discussed anywhere in the article. There's much more wrong here, but that's all I have time for ... perhaps someone from WT:MED will engage, but we should not be running this kind of (mis)information on the main page of Wikipedia. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:14, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

First of all I want to point that it is not medical advice, it is all thoroughly researched and only information that various sources was included so it could be provided to a international audience. In addition, when making the management section of the article I made sure not to get into a lot of detail in order to make a MEDMOS approved section. To address your issue with the JAMA article, it came to a conclusion that stabbings with strong feeling behind them lead to increased mortality. Lastly, it is discussed, but the numbers are not listed. If you wish I could go get the numbers and include them in the article (I did not add them originally because I did not want the article to have too much bulk). If you have anymore questions just ask. Peter.C • talk • contribs 02:01, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

This is the version discussed above, and that ran on the mainpage.

1. Frist, it was phrased to include medical advice. A few samples only:

   Initial care providers should also collect information on the knife blade that was used to cause the injury, such as its length and size.

   Before arriving to the hospital, the care providers should give advanced warning to the trauma team so they will have adequate time to prepare themselves.

2. Second, the JAMA article came to a conclusion based on a limited population (Israel). And, that source (PMID 8980203) was not even a primary study much less a secondary review per WP:MEDRS; it's a letter and a comment (the equivalent of a letter to the editor, opinion)-- a source that is wholly inadequate here. So, the article incorrectly extended opinion to all populations based on a journal letter not subject to secondary review:

   Generally, attacks motivated by religious or political disagreement tend to be more violent and therefore have higher mortality rates than other attacks.

3. Third, so we have a DYK hook whose text is not included anywhere in the article? Not how it works. No, do not go and get the numbers and include them in the article because there are more problems with the hook. First, it's UK data, yet the hook generalized to all populations. Second, you've cited the statement to three different sources (not all MEDRS), while it appears the data came from only one. Third, there seems to some misunderstanding of mortality, so if you can provide a direct quote here on talk from the cite, we can come to consensus about what might be added. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:52, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Youth violence

With regards to this revert, I feel that the fact that stabbings occur typically amongst youths is a pertinent fact to the article and there is plenty of of evidence to back it up. Does anyone have any objections to re-adding it back into the article? Peter.C • talk • contribs 22:34, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

opinion

Peter.C • talk • contribs....#1Penetrating_trauma I think this article could be used to outline in terms of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related_articles...#2 in regards to references you might want to go a similar route as the aforementioned article....with [1] [2] as possible further referencing, i'll take a look at the article even further (probably over the weekend) going GA is a great experience, --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:08, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback so far, will work on it :) Peter.C • talk • contribs 17:56, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

ive gone thru the article, for the time being I will stick with my prior recommendations...ping me without hesitation for any further help, I would be more than glad to assist, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Sharp Instrument Homicides by Selected Countries table has no column labels

I can't tell what any of these numbers mean because the columns are not labeled anywhere.

Omi745 (talk) 02:39, 16 January 2022 (UTC)