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What about the Russians? And the Chinese?

What did/do they eat on Vostok, Voskhod, and Soyuz missions? Beyond that, what about Shenzhou? --Lockesdonkey (talk) 05:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

No idea. Where would you find the info? As well, isn't the ISS "international" enough? :) Sjschen (talk) 05:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

-Search "food" for info at http://www.astronautix.com/flights/vostok1.htm SalineBrain (talk) 06:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

-"International" in "International Space Station" only includes about 16 (generally the most industrialized countries capable of significant contributions) out of the about 50 [1] countries having space programs [which include satellite-only programs [2] in addition to stereotypical space launcher programs [3]] SalineBrain (talk) 06:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

- Initial manned flight "toothpaste-type" food was presumably less localized, since human nutritive requirements were known by this time. The highly processed food was designed for minimum weight, and maximum nutritive characteristics, not local preparation traditions. Contrast this to later flights, which allowed heavier meals, due to heavier launch capabilities, and allowed for personal selection of traditional-type meals. SalineBrain (talk) 06:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

- Find more info at the following links

-ISS Expedition 7 food blog [4]

-Chinese space food in stores [5]

-Minor mention Shenzhou 7 Chinese space food [6]

-Retrofuture Products Launches Space Food Sticks [7]

-Astronauts Relish New Asian Space Food As Expedition 17 Docks [8]

-China's first human being in space eats choice of 20 Chinese dishes [9]

-SalineBrain (talk) 06:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

china is only the third nation to launch a man into space by itself, yet it does not mention ANYWHERE the chinese space food. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.83.166.144 (talk) 03:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

- See my links above. No time now to add to article myself, maybe later. SalineBrain (talk) 06:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Have any reliable sources provided this information? If so, please feel free to add it to the article. If not, there's nothing we can do. --Icarus ^(Hi!) 17:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Here's a picture of some russian food link.

I have added some Russian examples, File:CosmonautVodka.jpg (a must!) and File:CosmonautFood.jpg. // Liftarn (talk)

bagels in space

• Gregory Chamitoff, brought the first bagels into space, 3 bags (18 seasame seed bagels) with him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.8.116 (talk) 05:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

References

Good picture for the article lead

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-23/hires/s131e010227.jpg Shows what a meal is like in space, if only I could unwarp the image....

--Craigboy (talk) 01:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

It's a good image. Still the current lead image is better at showing what space food looks like, while this one better depicts a meal in space. An undistorted image could be nice for the article though. Sjschen (talk) 13:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

The caption for the first picture may mislead readers to believe that it's an ISS food tray, which I doubt as the beef steak was expired by the time Zarya was launched. As I've heard of no Battlecruiser Potemkin-like munity up there, I doubt they were given expired stuff. Furthermore, "SHUTTLE" is written on the fork. Of course, someone might have stolen it as they transferred from the shuttle to the station. I'll edit it now. -Deathmare

Some images of space food used by NASA

• Mercury

• Food kit1
• Food kit2
• Hydrating tube

• Gemini

• Food kit1
• Food kit2
• Food kit3

• Apollo

• Food kit
• Eating

• Skylab

• Serving and heating tray1 Serving and heating tray1
• Serving and heating tray2
• Drink bottle
• Table
• Eating

• ASTP

• Soviet space food

• Shuttle

• Skittles
• STS005-07-255
• Eating tray
• Food warmer
• Hydrating food1
• Hydrating food2
• Juice Bottle
• Drink bag1

• Mir

• Table
• Table
• Meal
• Food

• ISS

• Food
• Food storage containers1
• Food storage containers2
• Eating1 (Zvezda)
• Eating2 (Unity/Node 1)
• Drink bag1
• Drink bag2
• Video

--Craigboy (talk) 08:40, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

--Craigboy (talk) 01:17, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Links

http://www.nasa.gov/audience/formedia/presskits/spacefood/factsheets.html http://www.scribd.com/doc/46376171/NASA-Facts-Food-for-Space-Flight-July-1996 http://www.ag.iastate.edu/centers/ftcsc/media/packagingbrochure.pdf

Not "low gravity"

I know i'm being pedantic but the opening paragraph contains the line "the machinery filled low gravity environments of contemporary manned spacecraft." The gravity in contemporary manned spacecraft is about the same as on the surface of the Earth.

I suggest replacing low gravity with free-fall or weightless — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangutanlibrarian (talk • contribs) 18:45, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

In an article about spaceflight, that's not pedantic. It's important to not reinforce the common misconceptions, and it bothers me that no one changed this in the 5+ years since you mentioned it.LordQwert (talk) 21:41, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Pick the odd one out.

• Chinese: In October 2003, the People's Republic of China commenced their first manned space flight. The astronaut, Yang Liwei, brought along with him and ate specially processed yuxiang pork (鱼香肉丝), Kung Pao chicken (宫保鸡丁), and Eight Treasures rice (simp: 八宝饭; trad: 八寶飯), along with Chinese herbal tea.[11] Food made for this flight and the subsequent manned flight in 2007 has been commercialized for sale to the mass market.[12][13]

• Japanese: The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) have developed traditional Japanese foods and drinks such as matcha, yokan, ramen, sushi, soups, rice with ume for consumption in orbit.[14] The foods have been produced in collaboration with Japanese food companies such as Ajinomoto, Meiji Dairies, and Nissin Foods.[15]

• Jewish: In June 2008, Gregory Chamitoff brought bagels into space for the first time. He was on STS-124 for ISS Expedition 17, and brought with him 18 sesame seed Montreal-style bagels from his cousin's bakery.[16][17]

• Korean: In April 2008, South Korea’s first astronaut, Yi So-yeon, was a crew member on the International Space Station and brought a special version of Korea's national dish, kimchi. It took three research institutes several years and millions of dollars to create a version of the fermented cabbage dish that was suitable for space travel.[18]

• Russian: On the ISS the Russian crew has a selection of over 300 dishes. An example daily menu can be:[19]

Breakfast: curds and nuts, mashed potatoes with nuts, apple-quince chip sticks, sugarless coffee and vitamins.

Lunch: jellied pike perch, borsch with meat, goulash with buckwheat, bread, black currant juice, sugarless tea.

Supper: rice and meat, broccoli and cheese, nuts, tea with sugar.

Second supper: dried beef, cashew nuts, peaches, grape juice.

• Swedish: Swedish astronaut Christer Fuglesang was not allowed to bring reindeer jerky with him on-board a shuttle mission as it was unthinkable for the Americans so soon before Christmas. He had to go with moose instead.[20][21]

The list is clearly organized by country, I'll pull out the odd one out, and feel free to put it back under whichever country he is from, or we can do a list organized be everyone's religion, either is good. Penyulap _talk 02:55, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

2013 Feb 20: NASA releases new images re. space foods

http://www.space.com/19903-space-food-evolution-nasa-photos.html

Photos from the beginning of the US space program to present.

Great reference

This interview with Charles T Bourland has all sorts of useful details for this article - for instance he says that half the astronauts complained food tasted bland, the other half thought it tasted the same. He also goes into quite a lot of detail on how packaging changed and the importance of freezer access, if anyone wants to add it to the article. FlagSteward (talk) 23:27, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Rubbish sentence in introduction?

It seems somebody wrote nonsense in the introduction. The last sentence reads only:

"The astronaut/astronauts using this diet won't get any protein because of no meat"

No period. Use of a slash for plural? 'no meat = no protein', because no other foods contain protein? This is rubbish.

Yes, this was simply a newly added poor edit that hadn't been reverted. I've taken care of it. — Huntster (t @ c) 01:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Irradiated Meat

The description: "Irradiated (I) Meat - Beef steak that is sterilized with ionizing radiation to keep the food from spoiling. NASA has dispensation from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to use this type of food sterilization." This is oddly misleading. Food irradiation as a means of food preservation is common, and not controversial or illegal in the USA. The guidelines for irradiating meat are set down by the FDA. Unless NASA is exceeding the recommended irradiation levels, they wouldn't need special dispensation. The way it's currently phrased implies that the practice is normally forbidden or restricted and requires an exception. LordQwert (talk) 23:31, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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Organizational Ideas

As I am reading this article I believe that people who are accessing it will be primarily searching for space food and what it is. There are a lot of dates of records of different foods that astronauts have eaten in space, but there isn't a feel for the evolution of space food. I propose that the history elements be broken up into facts about the food and then the article could transition into a timeline of food-related events. For example, the "Early History" should include what space food used to be and show its evolution (through the packaging, processing, etc. sections) over time. This would call for a little restructuring of the article. Now it feels as though the names and dates aren't really contributing to what space food exactly is and how it has changed over time and could do much more as examples of the evolution. Also, I believe that a little more expansion on the "consumer derivatives" section can help the audience relate space food to their everyday lives. I couldn't find any sources for this, but any and all reliable knowledge/sources for this section would be helpful. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zport20 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Reorganizing the article/ adding small content/ copyediting

Howdy. I believe the "Types" section should be naturally placed as the first section in the article. I feel it would answer the questions raised when first learning about space food, such as, what kind of foods are space foods, and what forms do they come in. After that, the next logical step to read about would be processing, so the rest of the article reads pretty much the same.

I have added some hyperlinks to undefined words people may have questions about. (Intermediate moisture foods, etc.)

I have added some supporting information to help define the importance of partially undefined pieces of information.

I have made some small necessary copyediting changes.

I have made some small changes to the style of the article. In some parts it was clear that the article was written by two different people. Wikipedia requires a consistent academic level of tone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mumpsoffun (talk • contribs) 20:46, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Things to look out for

I have made a large number of changes to fit Wikipedia's guidelines above. However, before the article is complete, I am worried that we are still lacking content for up to date information. It is likely many advancements have been made since this article was last edited. Additionally, the consumer derivatives section may need more information to justify its existence on the page. If you have any questions feel free to reach out to me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mumpsoffun (talk • contribs) 21:37, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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