Talk:South East England

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"The traditional dialect of the region is middle-class use of Received Pronunciation; which is currently in decline. As of 2006, the working-class influenced Estuary English accent is more often found in the urbanised parts of the region."

ugh. there are plenty of traditional southeastern working class/rural accents: RP is far from a south eastern regional thing - and nor is the south east uniformly middle class. Morwen - Talk 14:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Major urban areas

I reverted a good faith edit by an anon editor, because the source data didn't support his figures. But now I think he was probably right so I've raised a challenge at talk:List of conurbations in the United Kingdom because for example the figure there for Southampton UA doesn't match the figure at Southampton Urban Area. Comments there welcome. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

It turns out that the original figure for Southampton UA was a previous editor's construction that did not use the ONS definition. The anon editor is not correct. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Economy - Sussex

This list just documents West Sussex. Shouldn't one be made for East Sussex? Regards, FM [ talk to me | show contributions ]  10:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Anon editor asks (in the article

At 23:59 on 25 December 2010 user:78.145.21.140 wrote in the article: "Population for south east is way out , should be at least 12 million probably a lot more. Also traditional area for south east would include Essex as it is home county. Allso Leith hill in surrey is higher at just a bit over 1000ft". Assuming good faith, I have reverted and moved it here to Discussion.

1. The article is about the Government Region, as given in the intro. This excludes London, Essex and Herts, which is maybe where your population guestimate comes from.
2. The article discusses alternative definitions of the South East, one of which is certainly "London and the Home Counties". But legally, Essex and Herts are in the East of England.
3. Leith Hill is 965 ft. See that article. So it is not higher.

--John Maynard Friedman (talk) 01:40, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

external link to govt. office for the SE

This seems broken, perhaps because the office was abolished.

Local government

It seems to me that this article's usefulness could be significantly by inserting a column to indicate the Parliamentary Constituencies. This would give a clear indication of the geographical position of constituencies as they sit alongside other constituencies. Unless I am mistaken this information is not available elsewhere on wiki. If it is perhaps a link would do. Isthisuseful (talk) 17:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

There is already a template included in the article in the section headed "Politics of the area" providing all the consituencies in the South East of England. For each ceremonial county there is also a separate article listing the current and historic parliamentary constituencies, such as List of Parliamentary constituencies in Buckinghamshire. Tmol42 (talk) 21:47, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

the map for surrey was mis-labelled. I have corrected i) j) k) but the map still has two b)s and no k) 2A02:C7D:8A9:6700:A051:796C:1BD4:AC41 (talk) 20:45, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Official and unofficial terminology

I know about the boundaries of the current official South East region - the subject of this article - and that the boundaries were changed in 1999. But, to the general public (certainly in other parts of the UK) and to many readers, the term "South East England" is commonly understood to mean an area that includes counties like Hertfordshire and Essex, even though they are "officially" part of a different region. There needs to be a sentence or two explaining this, probably in the boundaries section - and we need good sources that do use the term "South East England" in this slightly wider, more colloquial, sense. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:01, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

infographic?

Hi, I’m Andrew Clark and I work at the Office for National Statistics in the UK.

We publish lots of infographics and I wonder if this one on South East of England (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Regional_profile_of_the_South_East.png) would be of interest for South_East_England

FYI, the full gallery, updated weekly, is here <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Content_created_by_the_Office_for_National_Statistics>

All the best

Andrew Clark (smanders1982) 10 Dec 2013

Smanders1982 (talk) 13:31, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Smanders. I think a graphic with an appropriate and concise explanation (i.e. not just by adding a title for the graphic) to link to article content would be a worthwhile addition. The added content is crucial to ensure graphic adds value.Tmol42 (talk) 19:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

South-East Regional GDP

David Biddulph, Taoiseach - can we reach a consensus position on the GDP by Local Government area rather than edit war? IMO it is useful to show who contributes to the 'southeast powerhouse'. I can't for the life of me see why we would want to include data for Ireland though. If we did want to compare, then the Northwest or even the Netherlands or Ruhr Valley would be far more relevant. Can we discuss, please? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:56, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

As I've said throughout, I'm happy to see the data if someone provides a working and valid reference. The reference which is there at the moment returns "Invalid session: xtDataset is null." Please either provide a working reference or revert your addition. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:00, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Today's revision of the reference gives: "Eurostat - Important legal notice - v3.1.11-20151028-5608-PROD_EUROBASE - DATA-EXPLORER_PRODmanaged11 - Session invalid! - Sorry, your session has expired or you have not started the Data Explorer through a nonvalid entry point or no parameter set.". - David Biddulph (talk) 23:10, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

I agree, so drat these websites that don't like deep linking! There must be something similar on the ONS website but I can't find it. I'll have to do a step-by-step citation. BTW, odd that Reading/Wokingham UA doesn't have its own Nuts3 code separate from Berkshire? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:46, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

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Economy sections

The economy sections: Berkshire, Surrey, Buckinghamshire, Hampshire, Sussex, Kent and Oxfordshire seem to be just lists of companies, without any references to show that these companies exist or that any of the content is true, let alone references to show that the companies are notable in the context of the whole South East. I will delete them unless references are added. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 20:23, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

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Headquarters of the region's governmental bodies

"The headquarters of the region's governmental bodies are in Guildford, " I think this is out of date - elsewhere it says such bodies have been abolished.

Or am i missing something. Andrewblack (talk) 19:17, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Official region name is wrong - should be "South East"

There is currently a discussion at Talk:Regions of England regarding the official name of the region, as I believe that it is actually "South East", not "South East England". The thread is Talk:Regions of England § Some of the region article titles are wrong.. Thank you. Theknightwho (talk) 04:54, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Why no Dorset

So uk gov website Visit SE England, has Dorset as SE. Why is it not on this article? 81.105.95.101 (talk) 23:11, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Someone needs to look at a map. Dorset is SW. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 23:37, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

:It's not really a matter for this article, but it does raise an interesting question of why the so-called "South East England Tourist Board" does include Dorset, as shown here. Its official name is given as "The Southern and South East England Tourist Board (trading as Tourism South East)" - here - and it was formed "from the merger of the South East England and Southern Tourist Boards in 2003." Obviously, Bournemouth was previously within Hampshire not Dorset, so that may have been a factor. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:07, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

It's an interesting conundrum. I wonder if enough has been written about tourist boards to make them notable enough to have their own articles. It does seem sensible to mention in this article that the similarly named tourist board includes Dorset even though the official region doesn't. WaggersTALK 15:00, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Just to clarify - my thinking here being that if there was a South East England Tourist Board article, this article could link to it via a hatnote, which might solve this problem WaggersTALK 15:02, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

I would have thought, at the very least, there should be an article on Tourist board (England), listing and mapping them, and giving some basic details. Have I missed it? Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:20, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

... or a section in Tourism in England, perhaps? Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:51, 16 November 2022 (UTC)