Talk:Secret of Mana/GA1

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Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 15:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

None of these issues are major, but I think they need to be fixed first:

• A few stretches of text go without sources, like the last couple sentences in Gameplay and a lot of Plot. Shouldn't be hard to find: you could probably use a review for Gameplay and reviews/game quotes for Plot. It's a formality, I know, but it helps the reader know you're not making this stuff up and it's becoming a standard in GAs. Tezero (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
• Are Square Haven and G-Wie-Gorilla reliable sources? Tezero (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
• The Fair Use Rationale of File:Flammie Flying.gif is incomplete. Look at that of the first image—or better yet, from existing GAs and FAs—for an idea of what's needed. It's most standard and visually appealing to use the table-format from the first image, but at any rate, this image definitely needs more of a justification for its inclusion on its file page. Tezero (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
• Consider changing the title of the penultimate section to "Reception and legacy", since a good deal of its coverage is retrospective. You don't have to, but I think it would fit better. Tezero (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
• The second and third paragraphs of that section need topic sentences. Tezero (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

• The last three points are done. As to the first two: I'll try to find something for gameplay (it's quite difficult) but plot probably not- It's not even required at the FA level to have sources for plot sections, as pretty much no RS is going to have a plot summary anywhere near as detailed as the article's summary. It's implicitly sourced to the work itself, though I like to use game quotes to back parts of it up. Also, the Square Haven source is an interview with the composer, so the only concern would be if the source made up the whole thing, but the interviewer is Jeriaska, who is the primary source for video game music articles/interviews at Gamasutra and one of the editors at IndieGames.com, their sister site. No comment on G-Wie-Gorilla yet. --PresN 22:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

• Alright, I'll wait for you to act on the Gameplay citations and G-Wie-Gorilla. I don't know how I forgot the lack of a rule regarding Plot citations, though I like to get as much cited in my articles as I can. Tezero (talk) 02:37, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

• Gameplay now cited, and I ended up just removing the G Wie Gorilla stuff- they don't accept user submissions, the interview was performed by the site operator, and they appear to have done a lot of other interviews, but I can't find a link showing that they pay their writers or have editorial oversight, and since the site is dead I can't really ask. --PresN 18:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

• Good job! Let's do this! Tezero (talk) 00:29, 5 February 2014 (UTC)